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re: Why did the federal govt feel the need to create a dept of education in the first place?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
In case this isn’t just a circle jerk bitch fest and you’re actually interested in an answer.
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Although the Department is a relative newcomer among Cabinet-level agencies, its origins goes back to 1867, when President Andrew Johnson signed legislation creating the first Department of Education. Its main purpose was to collect information and statistics about the nation's schools. However, due to concern that the Department would exercise too much control over local schools, the new Department was demoted to an Office of Education in 1868.
Over the years, the office remained relatively small, operating under different titles and housed in various agencies, including the U.S. Department of the Interior and the former U.S. Department of Health Education and Welfare (now Health and Human Services).
Beginning in the 1950s, political and social changes resulted in expanded federal funding for education. The successful launch of the Soviet Union's Sputnik in 1957 spurred nationwide concern that led to increased aid for science education programs. The 1960s saw even more expansion of federal education funding: President Lyndon Johnson's "War on Poverty" called for the creation of many programs to improve education for poor students at all levels—early childhood through postsecondary. This expansion continued in the 1970s with national efforts to help racial minorities, women, people with disabilities and non-English speaking students gain equal access to education. In October 1979, Congress passed the Department of Education Organization Act (Public Law 96-88). Created by combining offices from several federal agencies, the Department began operations in May 1980.
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:08 pm to Zach
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Their children inherit IQ from genes. You can't fix it with a federal dept.
You are wrong. I saw on multiple news channels that all children have the same IQ. It is white supremacy that is keeping the others down. Except for Asians, because they are 'white' under this argument, obviously.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:09 pm to 4cubbies
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Constitution doesn’t have anything about a DOGE either. But I guess that’s diffe(R)ent.
Very different.
You may want to brush up on your political knowledge. Broadbrushing the Republican party like that is a tremenous faux pas. More are like dims, than those that are not. Swamp creatures. Deep state. Start a war, make money. Cronyism. Nepotism.
Anyway, when the constitution was authored, I'm sure they weren't thinking about the lying, cheating, thieving, inefficient turncoats that would appear later.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:11 pm to The Maj
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You can throw all the money you want at some people and they will still not have the ability to learn and retain relevant things....
At which point, why bother to educate them at all? Create a fund with the $20k per year it would have cost to educate them and give them a stipend at 18 until retirement when they can have the principal too. At only $20k per year it would be almost a half a million. If state spends $40k/year (as some do) that student would have just under a million dollars. This is only compounding through the 15th year of education. Assuming principal stays intact, it would be well north of that.
Can someone who is unable to retain relevant things net this much cash, after taxes in a life time of work?
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Jimmy Carter wanted a way to launder money to the teacher unions.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:17 pm to TigerBaitOohHaHa
Hopefully we are trending towards the realization that communities that demand quality schools create quality school districts not the government.
Parents holding their kids accountable creat schools that quality teachers want to work at. Quality kids, involved parents and quality teachers create productive learning environments. No amount of money or government initiatives can change that.
Parents holding their kids accountable creat schools that quality teachers want to work at. Quality kids, involved parents and quality teachers create productive learning environments. No amount of money or government initiatives can change that.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:18 pm to Dolphinepride
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Why do rich people have higher IQ? What genes makes them smarter?
Hot chicks like guys with great big…..brains. Thus their offspring are hot and brilliant.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Up until 1980, it did not exist.
It existed under the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Grift and fraud.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:44 pm to Dolphinepride
quote:Maybe it's because they applied their higher IQ to acquire wealth. Just a thought.
Why do rich people have higher IQ
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
In theory it’s not a bad idea to measure state performance against a baseline of some kind and put pressure on poor performers.
But that’s obviously not its mission.
But that’s obviously not its mission.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Have you ever been to Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Teacher's union wanted it. and well Democrats for over 100 years have wanted more government.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:29 pm to Lakeboy7
Are you aware of something called a cost-benefit analysis
I don’t know how you can look at school performance data since May 1980 and come away with the conclusion that dept of education funding would be better spent elsewhere
I don’t know how you can look at school performance data since May 1980 and come away with the conclusion that dept of education funding would be better spent elsewhere
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I don’t know how you can look at school performance data since May 1980 and come away with the conclusion that dept of education funding would be better spent elsewhere
What was the cost in federal dollars per student in each of those states since 1980?.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:52 pm to Big Chipper
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Jimmy Carter
Yep. He had a soft spot for black people so he went LCD with education like he thought they weren't smart or something. Kinda fricked way of thinking for a Christian.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 7:06 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Jimmy Carter needed a way to pay back the unions (specifically teachers unions) for winning him the election. This is what they wanted to give them control over the money.
Different but still similar to how the national anti abortion movement screeched when Trump threw abortions back to the states. It’s much much much harder to control money in 50 states vs one big federal consolidation. It’s Marxism 101
Different but still similar to how the national anti abortion movement screeched when Trump threw abortions back to the states. It’s much much much harder to control money in 50 states vs one big federal consolidation. It’s Marxism 101
This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 7:08 am
Posted on 3/21/25 at 7:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Harvard which has a 3.7% acceptance rate is now offering remedial math classes to incoming students. That's where we are.
I don’t know how you can look at school performance data since May 1980 and come away with the conclusion that dept of education funding would be better spent elsewhere
Posted on 3/21/25 at 7:28 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
There was a department of Health, Education, and Welfare. Carter decided to make education a separate department.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 8:02 am to 4cubbies
In case you are interested in the real answer:
Carter wanted the NEA teachers union endorsement in the 1976 election, they agreed to give it (first time ever) if he would get the DOE created. After he won the election he rallied the Democrats to to carve out DOE as its own agency and used NEA guidance to help get it organized. This was reported on by Reuters and Mondale gave an interview describing his part in setting up the quid pro quo.
So, go ahead and keep up the propaganda fest, but some of us are not fooled.
Carter wanted the NEA teachers union endorsement in the 1976 election, they agreed to give it (first time ever) if he would get the DOE created. After he won the election he rallied the Democrats to to carve out DOE as its own agency and used NEA guidance to help get it organized. This was reported on by Reuters and Mondale gave an interview describing his part in setting up the quid pro quo.
So, go ahead and keep up the propaganda fest, but some of us are not fooled.
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