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Why did OIG need to use DOD data rec to retrieve Strzok messages?

Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:25 pm
Posted by McChowder
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:25 pm
We learned after the release of the OIG report that DoD data recovery methods were used to retrieve some of the love birds texts. Apparently this process is still ongoing.These messages fall outside the time frame of the infamous FBI backup "glitch".

How were these specific messages removed from FBI backup servers? Think about the kind of access and approval you would need to make something like that happen. The fact they have to resort to DoD recovery tools sounds like they were scrubbed from the server.
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:27 pm to
Rod and Wray are trying to hide the texts from Congress
Posted by Knight of Old
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:27 pm to
It is all just a coincidence...
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:28 pm to
Tis fascinating, tisn't tit?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:28 pm to
What was their intent though?
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:32 pm to
Simple answer is FBI's backups suck (Horowitz said it himself). So if they weren't backed up on the FBI server, then the only other place they're stored is on the phones themselves. So it seems likely Strzok tried to delete them off his personal phone. Apparently he isn't as good as Hillary at doing so.
Posted by McChowder
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:38 pm to
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Simple answer is FBI's backups suck (Horowitz said it himself). So if they weren't backed up on the FBI server, then the only other place they're stored is on the phones themselves. So it seems likely Strzok tried to delete them off his personal phone. Apparently he isn't as good as Hillary at doing so.

Were the love birds texts the only ones not being captured on the backups? Wouldn't there be log files and alerts whenever syncs fail? Why are they avoiding talking specifics if they have them?
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:43 pm to
I’m fairly tech savvy but I don’t understand a set up in which text messages sent between two presumably Apple and/or Samsung smartphones are backed up to independent FBI servers.

Is that a thing?

It would be obvious for emails, but texts?

I took all of that to mean that the FBI took possession of their phones as they were government property and then needed help to get in them with no independent servers being involved in the process.

This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 5:45 pm
Posted by McChowder
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:49 pm to
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’m fairly tech savvy but I don’t understand a set up in which text messages sent between two presumably Apple and/or Samsung smartphones are backed up to independent FBI servers. 

Is that a thing? 

It's a thing.

I don't know the specifics though. It was reported early on that about 5 months of text logs were lost due to a "glitch" which coincidentally coincided with the beginning of the Russian investigation.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:54 pm to
Deep State coverup. Expected. Hillary set the standard; DESTROY the damning evidence...Law be damned. Or the System will be forced to prosecute.

Can't wait for some real patriotic American FBI Agents to testify.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:08 pm to
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I’m fairly tech savvy but I don’t understand a set up in which text messages sent between two presumably Apple and/or Samsung smartphones are backed up to independent FBI servers.


Every text traverses at set of servers between carriers... and all kinds of data gathering points in between. Consider yourself warned.
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:14 pm to
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Every text traverses at set of servers between carriers... and all kinds of data gathering points in between


Ok but those aren't FBI servers and I'm assuming Strozek and Page were using the same network if the text were sent on their work phones.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:17 pm to
And those these text were not on those servers. So the question is, who deleted them...
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:32 pm to
They were from 2016. Carriers periodically clear their servers of text messages. Probably SOP cleaning. I think Verizon deletes metadeta yearly on a rolling basis.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 6:32 pm
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:43 pm to
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Why did OIG need to use DOD data rec to retrieve Strzok messages?


They didn't. They received them from Lisa Page. They needed DoD technology to confirm how they were removed from other devices/servers and who removed them. How would they know to keep digging for some random text?
Posted by McChowder
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:10 pm to
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They didn't. They received them from Lisa Page. They needed DoD technology to confirm how they were removed from other devices/servers and who removed them. How would they know to keep digging for some random text?

The DoD tools were for data recovery. It took months to get them back. That was the reason for it (texts) not being submitted to congress until recently.

You did ask a good question though. How did they know to keep digging for some random texts if (1) it was never captured on the backup servers, (2) was scrubbed from the phone, (3) was purged from the carrier?
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:06 pm to
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How would they know to keep digging for some random text?


If you have the phone number and even a vague timeline
I don't believe it's very difficult.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:18 pm to
They found the text in an area of the phone that they did not know stored any text.
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:00 pm to
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How were these specific messages removed from FBI backup servers? Think about the kind of access and approval you would need to make something like that happen. The fact they have to resort to DoD recovery tools sounds like they were scrubbed from the server.




I've been telling everyone that the Deep State Gatekeepers (FBI/DOJ) have been busy purging/destroying incriminating evidence relating to Hilldawg's emails, the Steele Dossier/FISA warrants, U1, Huma/Weiner laptop, and anything else that would topple this corrupt DC Swamp.
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:05 pm to
Everytime you hot sync your phone to your computer on iTunes your text messages hot sync too.
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