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Why did ACB allow Despicable Dick Durbin to frame the Floyd incident as racism?

Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:27 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45919 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:27 am
I’m tired of people who are politically center or conservative allowing the Dims to frame the George Floyd incident as an unquestionable racist incident.

Despicable Durbin framed his Floyd question to ACB as if the incident was already determined to be a white racist cop killing a black man. We know the motivation or reasons behind the death of George Floyd is still undetermined. Many sane Americans believe it’s just another incident of a police officer not being properly trained or not following the proper procedures for restraining a suspect. To this day the lawyers representing George Floyd have yet to present evidence to the public that shows officer Chauvin to be a racist and this is where ACB should have shut Durbin down with his presumption that Chauvin is a racist.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24928 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:30 am to
She's not proffering her own opinion on anything. She's answering questions within the confines of her judicial responsibility. If she'd opined there, the Dems would have pounced on her and hard.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139674 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:31 am to
Durbin is a scum bag and acb did well.

Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76445 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:33 am to
This is purely about optics. Not worth having that discussion at all.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45919 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:33 am to
Understand but she could have shut down the Floyd BS by asking Durbin where's the proof of racism in Mr Floyd's death. In other words she backhands Durbin by saying there's no proof of racism in the George Floyd death so what's your question? Then she says I will not offer an opinion if Durbin were to attempt to rework his race baiting question.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 11:38 am
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79879 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:35 am to
No, then she would have been inserting herself into the discussion instead of being exempt from it.
Posted by Spawn
Berlin
Member since Oct 2006
7046 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:35 am to
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Durbin is a scum bag.


This is a great insult to bags of scum.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120110 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:36 am to
Every question is a trap and must be answered neutrally without bias or opinion
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24928 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Understand but she could have shut down the Floyd BS by asking Durbin where's the proof of racism in Mr Floyd's death. In other words she backhands Durbin by saying there's no proof of racism in the George Floyd death so what's your question?


Nope. Nope. Nope.

They aren't being confirmed, she is. This is not the time or place for her to correct them on anything other than judicial interpretation or precedent.

She's spent all morning invoking the RBG stance on specific cases, if she opines there, she opens herself up to a shite storm of trouble.

She answered correctly and needs to stay the course. Don't give the Dems any fodder.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9159 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:39 am to
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Understand but she could have shut down the Floyd BS by asking Durbin where's the proof of racism in Mr Floyd's death. In other words she backhands Durbin by saying there's no proof of racism in the George Floyd death so what's your question?

That's the exact sound byte the dims went to plaster the airways with. Claiming ACB is blinded by white privilege and unable to recognize systemic racism and it's effects on all minorities / marginalized people. Therefore, she can't be a fair Justice for all people and must recuse herself.
Posted by TexasRiddler
Member since May 2020
29 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:42 am to
I had the same frustration with her answer but hopefully she was just avoiding taking the bait. While it would be satisfying to have her lay out the true facts on this specific issue not sure it is the right time or place for that. It would only make her a lightning rod for protests and cancel culture.

Also maybe she is not up to speed on the details due to being a busy person and she only knows the media version of the story. The true story takes a lot of effort for the average person to becoming aware of it.

Her 2nd amendment answers more than make up for this.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45919 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:43 am to
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Nope. Nope. Nope. They aren't being confirmed, she is. This is not the time or place for her to correct them on anything other than judicial interpretation or precedent. She's spent all morning invoking the RBG stance on specific cases, if she opines there, she opens herself up to a shite storm of trouble. She answered correctly and needs to stay the course. Don't give the Dems any fodder.


If we were still operating in the decorum of the pre Trump era I would 100% agree but this political grandstanding by Dims needs to be reigned in and ACB had every right in today's political environment to set Durbin's arse straight. Make an example of that feeble fool.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5527 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:54 am to
If she would have done that she probably doesn’t get confirmed. That would have been idiotic.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24928 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:03 pm to
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If we were still operating in the decorum of the pre Trump era I would 100% agree but this political grandstanding by Dims needs to be reigned in and ACB had every right in today's political environment to set Durbin's arse straight. Make an example of that feeble fool.


I agree with you on a personal level.

But, procedurally, the Dems will all vote no on her, and she'll still be confirmed. That much is set in stone barring some unforeseen shock.

What we don't need is for her to provide Dems election fodder to be used against vulnerable Repubs or Trump on Nov 3. We don't need Dems and the media portraying Trump's pick and the new Justice as anything other than qualified and judicially responsible and their new favorite: temperamentally fit.

And trust me, I'd love to see her take a flame thrower to their bullshite like we all know she can. But there is more at stake than just her confirmation.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42474 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:06 pm to
I was surprised at her take on that - agreed that racism was afoot and her black kids were warned about it.

Really surprised
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42474 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

maybe she is not up to speed on the details due to being a busy person and she only knows the media version of the story.


Not a chance - even if she were oblivious, the people preparing her for likely assertions would certainly have briefed her on them.

I can understand not directly challenging them - the other senators can do that - but I am still surprised at the degree to which she agreed with the 'systemic racism' baloney.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29823 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Understand


obviously you dont

quote:

she could have shut down the Floyd BS by asking Durbin where's the proof of racism in Mr Floyd's death.

clearly you havent been paying attention, nothing matters to the hive and truth and honesty are concepts they dont understand
Posted by JohnnyT
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2005
1806 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:17 pm to
If you’ve ever done a deposition or anything similar the lawyers advise you to only answer what is asked in the most direct and succinct way possible. Don’t offer opinions or ad lib or get caught up on all their preamble and whatever other flourish they spew around the actual question.

In other words, just answer the question amd don’t rise to any bait. She’s doing great.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123745 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:19 pm to
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Why did ACB allow Despicable Dick Durbin to frame the Floyd incident as racism?
Good question. I was appalled at that. I cannot imagine Chauvin, if race was not at play, hearing a SCOTUS nom arriving at those conclusions without access to facts.

Better answer would have been, "The video was awful. What happened to George Floyd should happen to no man.IF race turns out to have played a role, it would add a thick layer of revulsion to an already terrible situation. Without knowing all the facts, my family did discuss race relations based solely on appearances in that video. Racism is abhorrent!"
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20941 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:20 pm to
Because she is a judge, not a politician. She can have an opinion but best not to express it. Look at that "judge" in the Flynn case right now. I do not want that on the supreme court.
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