re: Why can every other first world country have healthcare for all?

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CRNAs pretend to be equivalent/better than anesthesiologists, DNPs pretend to be better than/equivalent to internists/family physicians/pediatricians.

NPs now subspecialize. They wear white coats. They lobby (successfully!) for increased prescriptive/diagnostic/therapeutic and political power.

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This, in a nutshell, is what caused me to lose faith in government.
You have a board of medicine? Good. Let them decide how medicine works.
So you get a "nursing" board to define the "scope" of nursing as whatever they damn well please and lobby the hell out of the legislature to get an unchecked power, which they then go and grant to anyone who gets an online degree which proudly shares copies of tests and plagiarised papers on their Facebook groups.

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It is over. Within 2 or 3 generations there will be no recognizable system inclusive of MDs unless we are talking only of massive tertiary/quarternary care academic university hospitals.

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I think they (nursing association and boards) screwed up and let the pendulum swing a bit too far to one side with resulting backlash coming in the future. It would not totally surprise me if you are right. But it also wouldn't surprise me to see either a political or social trend back towards MD/DO in the next generation as far, far too many NPs around here don't know their arse from a hole in the ground when they graduate which will lead to quantifiably worse care over the coming years.


But it's a mess and it's only going to get worse.

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What about other things payed by "socialized" programs like the Interstate System

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I see this argument a lot in addition to using examples like libraries, the post office(lol) and others.

Allow me to mansplain to you for a moment.

every road ever built had to be expressly authorized by the voters, either directly (plebiscite/proposition or whatever) or indirectly, being duly authorized by the government of the day acting on behalf of the voters (if citizens do not like their choices they can de-elect them at the next election). The government must prove the expenditure is necessary and has a fiduciary responsibility to the people to ensure it is a prudent and reasonable investment on their behalf (vis-a-vis some other need of, and for, the people). The bidding system for such expenditures is supposed to be an open and fair one. The contractors must submit firm bids and submit them through bonding to finishing the work as agreed to within a set time and budget.

socialism is when the Government (usually a group of unelected people) decides what shall be built, for years into the future, and is shielded from any contact with the people they are supposed to serve. They usually report to and are absolutely controlled by, a small group of unelected officials.


Clear now on why this argument is flawed and you need to get a grip on reality?

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What about other things payed by "socialized" programs like the Interstate System?

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The interstate system was developed for the military to move throughout the country more easily. You pay for a portion of it every time you gas up. The more gas you use, the more you pay for the interstate. Whether you make $10,000,000 or $10,000, you pay the same rate based on how much you drive because that's the wear and tear you're putting on the road.

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frick those roads, go to Lowe's and buy some asphalt...make you're own road.

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The government is incentivised to protect its citizens. Moving the military from coast to coast easily fulfills one of the duties of the federal government. Please do not confuse "limited" government and anarchy.

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Why do my tax dollars have to pay for your road?

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If you don't buy gas, you'll spend almost nothing on the roads, depending on which state you're in and how they fund them.


How much of your healthcare would I pay for if I use none myself?


I don't think you could have chosen a worse example.

Lol. Basically.

And unfortunately people are voting flight attendants that power.

How much healthcare do you already pay if you use none yourself? Couple hundred bucks a month just in case?

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going to give you an answer so honest, it’ll hurt.
I don’t want universal healthcare for the simple fact that our govt is inept and corrupt. A govt that can’t educate, over incarcerates, bombs at Will, and steals our money will never successfully heal us.
I would LOVE for there to be universal healthcare. Health insurance sucks, and I say this as an insurance agent. But, the fed govt has proven to be awful in every sense of the word, so they can gtfo.

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The most honest answers are the best. And all of those problems you mentioned are done by design because it's easier to remove a problem than fix it.

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Why can every other first world country have healthcare for all?

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I'm gonna go back to your main point and raise a counter-argument.

Why doesn't every other first-world-country have defined freedom of speech?

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Pretty sure you aren't grasping the full scope involved in the destruction of the field of medicine

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I know insurance for MDs is insanely high. That medicines cost too much largely because of FDA preventing alternatives from being sold.

And I realize that fields like NP have become the scapegoat to get around the technicality of dealing with a doctor. Yes it all hurts the medical field as a whole because it destroys any liability.

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