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re: Why aren't kids getting into the trades anymore?
Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:47 am to Forever
Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:47 am to Forever
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I will say this, I’m younger and own a trade-type business and work very hard, but waking up at 4 AM to go to work needs to die with your generation.
I am not an old guy. Waking up early in Construction is for many practical reasons, not just to be tough.
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:49 am to Dawgfanman
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Serious questions.
How are they advertising their openings?
Do they have any previous experience requirements?
Who does the candidate screening and what makes them qualified to do so?
To be honest, I am not involved with hiring so do not know, I am just making observations. This is not just a "my company" issue. It is across the industry.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:50 am to burger bearcat
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It is sad because a young guy with a good drive couls easily work his way into a superintendent or journeyman role in a few years making pretty good money to take care of a family
+10
Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:55 am to burger bearcat
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To be honest, I am not involved with hiring so do not know, I am just making observations. This is not just a "my company" issue. It is across the industry
I know. My question applies to all trades and all jobs.
From my experience people don’t cast a wide enough net when looking for entry level workers. The idea of hiring someone with zero experience or experience in a completely different career is often avoided. It shouldn’t be. For an entry level carpenter you basically want a responsible young person who will follow instructions and learn by observation and then a bit of trial and error.
Instead they advertise for 1 year construction experience, must have own tools, etc.
There are good young men who have no idea what it’s like to work hard or if they’d like it or not, many never try because they don’t even think it’s possible for them.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:57 am to 50407Tiger
With all the downvotes, proof your industry is toxic and creates toxic personalities that lead to toxic relationships that lead to a bunch of miserable, tired toxic people.
The reason no one wants to work in that toxic field is because it creates the toxic people that have downvoted with their toxicity.
You guys get it yet?
You’re all toxic construction workers. Try to shed that image, you might find workers.
The reason no one wants to work in that toxic field is because it creates the toxic people that have downvoted with their toxicity.
You guys get it yet?
You’re all toxic construction workers. Try to shed that image, you might find workers.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:57 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:58 am to burger bearcat
You can make 15 dollars flipping burgers now.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:59 am to 50407Tiger
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You’re all toxic construction workers. Try to shed that image, you might find workers.
What else does the world owe you, princess?
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:00 am to burger bearcat
What are they other than intangible comfort factors like it being cooler in the morning? The marginal benefits don’t outweigh the negatives IMO
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:01 am to 50407Tiger
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With all the downvotes, proof your industry is toxic and creates toxic personalities that lead to toxic relationships that lead to a bunch of miserable, tired toxic people.
You sound like an entitled pussy...
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:04 am to Robin Masters
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Need to advertise it as a “custom wood and metal artisan”
Painters are "liquid application engineers".
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:05 am to burger bearcat
Everybody i know working a trade wants to start early so they can get home early.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:05 am to 50407Tiger
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50407Tiger
fricking freak
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:05 am to Dawgfanman
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From my experience people don’t cast a wide enough net when looking for entry level workers. The idea of hiring someone with zero experience or experience in a completely different career is often avoided. It shouldn’t be. For an entry level carpenter you basically want a responsible young person who will follow instructions and learn by observation and then a bit of trial and error.
I agree. Our industry has sucked at marketing these jobs to young kids. They put too much emphasis on prior experience and not enough on attitude. It is sort of a chicken and the egg predicament.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:08 am to burger bearcat
My son wants to pursue an engineering degree, but he's taking a welding class, a body shop class and an automotive class over the next three semesters, but also taking AutoCAD.
In the automotive class they are taking a 302 out of a Mustang, rebuilding it and reinstalling it.
These are all good classes to take to give him some skills experience. The school district has all kinds of trade classes for kids to take.
In the automotive class they are taking a 302 out of a Mustang, rebuilding it and reinstalling it.
These are all good classes to take to give him some skills experience. The school district has all kinds of trade classes for kids to take.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:09 am to Wally Sparks
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Because for the past 30+ years parents, society and government have harped on the “college or bust” train.
Not everyone should go to college. Like Judge Smails said, "the world needs ditchdiggers too."
If my kids weren't college ready (and intending to go into fields where advanced degrees were absolutely necessary), I'd definitely steer them to the trades.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:09 am to Wally Sparks
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Because for the past 30+ years parents have harped on the “college or bust” train.
This. The entirety of society took a shite on blue collar jobs and the middle class the last 30 years.
Electricians
Contractors
Builders
Plumbers
Carpenters
Construction
Handymen
Mechanics
Welders
Etc
Go to college or you’ll end up as a blue collar worker!
1. There’s nothing wrong with that
2. We’ll see the effects of this in a few years when the vast shortage of construction and blue collar workers skyrockets their value and wages
You think housing prices and Maitenence costs are high now? Wait until you can’t find an electrician or plumber or framer.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 7:28 am
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:09 am to Forever
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What are they other than intangible comfort factors like it being cooler in the morning?
Losing daylight in the winter is a big one.
Deliveries are generally made between 7:00 and 4:00
You mentioned it but the heat in the summer.
When working in a neighborhood, you will get noise complaints past 6:00 p.m. and many subdivisions do not allow construction past 6:00 p.m. or before a certain time.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:09 am to Forever
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What are they other than intangible comfort factors like it being cooler in the morning? The marginal benefits don’t outweigh the negatives IMO
For outside jobs, it's about the amount of daylight you have.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:10 am to 50407Tiger
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Let me tell you what, your industry sucks that’s why nobody wants to do it. Plain and simple. Have fun with your miserable lives.
STFU and hump them 2X4s, you lazy frick.
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