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re: Why Are White Men Stockpiling Guns?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:08 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:08 pm to Ace Midnight
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We don't need ICBMs or long-range bombers to protect our familes, homes, communities, and collectively the nation, from anything. However, we do need rifles, pistols and machineguns. That's the floor for "right to keep and bear arms."
So then the government will never be your enemy? Is that what you're saying? Because if you are, then we can actually get back to the discussion we are supposed to be having.
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:08 pm to CollegeFBRules
Because I like them.
And when the shite hits the fan eventually, my family will be well armed... Even if the shite hits the fan in a couple generations, my progeny will have good shite.
And when the shite hits the fan eventually, my family will be well armed... Even if the shite hits the fan in a couple generations, my progeny will have good shite.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:09 pm to CollegeFBRules
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How do they?
You brought the families of the shooting victims into this. Now you don't want to play?
A family AGONIZES over that kid's choices, loss of potential, health problems and, potentially death upon overdose. I'm as libertarian as the next cat, but to pretend that isn't a harm to the family and society is literally blind to the issue.
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We don't play in hypotheticals
So, you just expect everything to go as planned and if not, oh well, right?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:09 pm to CollegeFBRules
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Go tell that to the parents of the kids in Santa Fe and Parkland. Tell that the kids and spouses of the people in Vegas.
The Old emotional appeal
Why have school shootings jumped in the past 25 years?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:09 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Not to mention there are local adjudication for mentallly incompetent. This was 100% redundant.
We having a rash of such people committing gun crime?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:10 pm to upgrayedd
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You went on a rant about SF and Vegas.
Stating they happened isn't a rant.
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I've already stated that I'm open to that as long as it's done with due process. Not like this no-fly list bullshite.
Okay, then feel free to articulate a scenario on how your due process would go. Perhaps you and I agree a lot more than our discussion indicates.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:10 pm to CollegeFBRules
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So, two responses almost back to back implying the kind of paranoia and fear spoken about in the posted article? Got it.
You think this isn't coming to a head eventually? Naive.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:10 pm to CollegeFBRules
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So then the government will never be your enemy?
Maybe, maybe not. But resistance will be effective enough as long as we have rifles, pistols and machineguns.
My evidence? The VC and Al-Queda. Plus we will have massive numbers advantage.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:11 pm to CollegeFBRules
quote:That's fine and all but, it's kind of a red herring.
No, Rob, it's in response to that not being a disqualifier from owning a gun.
Seems if you want to talk about gun violence, you should probably stick to shite that actually matters
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:12 pm to Ace Midnight
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You brought the families of the shooting victims into this. Now you don't want to play?
Well then what's your solution to the kid shooting heroin into his veins?
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hat isn't a harm to the family and society is literally blind to the issue.
It literally is zero harm to society if that kids shoots up and is dead in ten minutes. It's a tragedy, but it was a choice that kid made.
Now, tell me the choice those kids in Santa Fe made.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:12 pm to ShortyRob
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Seems if you want to talk about gun violence, you should probably stick to shite that actually matters
Well, that does indeed matter.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:12 pm to ShortyRob
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Seems if you want to talk about gun violence, you should probably stick to shite that actually matters
He doesn't want to talk about gun violence. If we were, we would be talking about young black men with guns in Chicago, Detroit, Oakland, L.A., Atlanta, Miami, etc.
He wants to talk about gun control - because white people are stockpiling guns.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:13 pm to Ace Midnight
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You brought the families of the shooting victims into this. Now you don't want to play?
Yep, exactly
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:13 pm to Ace Midnight
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Maybe, maybe not. But resistance will be effective enough as long as we have rifles, pistols and machineguns.
Ah, now we are playing word games.
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My evidence? The VC and Al-Queda. Plus we will have massive numbers advantage.
That's your comparison to the United States government / military?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:14 pm to CollegeFBRules
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Stating they happened isn't a rant.
It was, at the very least, irrelevant and merely used to dodge the fact I stated.
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Okay, then feel free to articulate a scenario on how your due process would go. Perhaps you and I agree a lot more than our discussion indicates.
Guy has been acting erratically at work, school, whatever. Has breakdown, or issues threats, etc. Medical professionals think he may be a threat to society. Case is presented to a judge. Judge makes a ruling. Ruling can be revisited after x amount of time.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:14 pm to CollegeFBRules
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Well then what's your solution to the kid shooting heroin into his veins?
I'm okay with legalizing it all - just with eyes open.
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It literally is zero harm to society if that kids shoots up and is dead in ten minutes.
Tell that to his family.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:14 pm to CollegeFBRules
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So then the government will never be your enemy?
You people have lost your minds.
The govt is going to launch an ICBM on a rebellion. How would that even work?
quote:Interesting
Is that what you're saying? Because if you are, then we can actually get back to the discussion we are supposed to be having.
Russia had ICBMs and yet, we have the Balkan states.
Me think you need to grow some logic.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:15 pm to CollegeFBRules
All that effort to paint whites with guns as racist, meanwhile black youths are being killed in horrifying numbers by other black youths.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:15 pm to upgrayedd
That's what red flag laws are for and they are a step in the right direction, but there was opposition to those in the last thread discussion as well. Ask ShortyRob.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 4:15 pm to Ace Midnight
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If we were, we would be talking about young black men with guns in Chicago, Detroit, Oakland, L.A., Atlanta, Miami, etc.
Do you know EBRP had 30 more murders last year than Oakland?
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