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re: Why all of the mass shootings now, and not back when?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:28 am to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:28 am to Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:28 am to Mike da Tigah
I’ll give it a try:
24 hour news and sensationalism of tragic events.
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Internets
Social media
Coddled children’s
Entitlement
Covid
Boom…
24 hour news and sensationalism of tragic events.
Really good video games vs pong
Internets
Social media
Coddled children’s
Entitlement
Covid
Boom…
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:29 am to RollTide1987
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The first "modern" mass shooting was Charles Whitman in 1966 on the UT campus. Mental illness is what drove him to do what he did. Then you had the Columbine shooters in 1999 that set off a string of school shootings that have continued almost unabated for the last 25 years.
I know. I remember watching the movie as a kid that was shot in BR at the state capital building, but it was far from being epidemic, which is why it was so shocking to everyone. Today it seems as if there is no end to it. It happens with regularity
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:34 am to Yeahright
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Well, they took GOD out of schools so there's that. That in and of itself is the main culprit. A lot of kids have no morals and no hope.
I agree with you, and you have to have no hope and overflowing with hatred and unforgiveness to do something so insane and calloused, a complete devaluation of human life, even their own.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:35 am to Mike da Tigah
When you have to work and have things to do that tire out your body and mind, you dont have time to get depressed and suicidal. Sitting down all day with books or screens in your face all day has never been a good thing for people. Its especially bad for young boys.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:39 am to scottydoesntknow
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When you have to work and have things to do that tire out your body and mind, you dont have time to get depressed and suicidal. Sitting down all day with books or screens in your face all day has never been a good thing for people. Its especially bad for young boys.
Excellent point. That certainly wasn’t a factor growing up.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:41 am to Mike da Tigah
24 hr news cycle. This stuff has been around forever. Just never heard about it. Can you imagine the coverage that the Univ ofTexas and New Orleans snipers would have gotten today ?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:41 am to Mike da Tigah
Evolution
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:43 am to Mike da Tigah
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Excellent point. That certainly wasn’t a factor growing up.
Yeah im assuming just based off what the demographics are for this site, but id assume most of us played sports and had to work when we werent in school. You dont often see the starting center shooting up people
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:44 am to Mike da Tigah
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That’s government
Just because they aren’t pulling the trigger doesn’t mean they aren’t the ones enabling these maniacs though.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:44 am to Padme
There’s lots of reasons but the two main culprits are
1- Spiritual decline
2- Denigrating masculinity and stripping boys of their purpose and place in society
1- Spiritual decline
2- Denigrating masculinity and stripping boys of their purpose and place in society
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:45 am to Mike da Tigah
It all starts in the home...
- Missing fathers in the home that prepare kids for the dangers of weapons and threatened the kids to not touch a gun without them being present.
- Missing fathers not teaching respect for others and their lives.
- Less reverence for God and not just the loving God, but the God of punishment.
We went duck hunting before both high school and junior college and had the shotguns in our vehicles. There was never a concern for anyone to be shot (or the weapons to be stolen).
- Missing fathers in the home that prepare kids for the dangers of weapons and threatened the kids to not touch a gun without them being present.
- Missing fathers not teaching respect for others and their lives.
- Less reverence for God and not just the loving God, but the God of punishment.
We went duck hunting before both high school and junior college and had the shotguns in our vehicles. There was never a concern for anyone to be shot (or the weapons to be stolen).
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:45 am to Mike da Tigah
Some lib asshats brought our schools and children down a path they designed to change America.
No prayer in school
No pledge in school
No parental rights for school
No child responsibility for school
No teachers rights
No discipline
No direction
Fed disillusionment
Broken kids.
No prayer in school
No pledge in school
No parental rights for school
No child responsibility for school
No teachers rights
No discipline
No direction
Fed disillusionment
Broken kids.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:46 am to Mike da Tigah
Modern society has cultivated a lot of dark, inward-looking places in the culture that were never there before. Just like the way the internet allows cracked people to find each other, communicate, and share deeper and darker journeys into the abyss of what would have been deemed mental insanity. It builds on itself, sweeping up more and more directionless souls, and taking them in severely negative spots.
Simply put, there are so many mental places that earlier generations would have never even remotely thought to travel. There were societal and cultural buffers preventing people from mentally 'going there' to begin with.
Simply put, there are so many mental places that earlier generations would have never even remotely thought to travel. There were societal and cultural buffers preventing people from mentally 'going there' to begin with.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:49 am to Mike da Tigah
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Why now, and not back then if nothing has changed with people or culture?
A lot has changed since our time. A LOT. The schools are nothing like they were back in our time, and the kids are nothing like they were in our day.
Let's take social media for example. Back in our day, if one guy went too far over the line, and got into a fight, somebody just got a whoopin.
Now? They go online and ruin the other person. On a national, even multi-national level.
Schools are now a very political environment. Particularly now with the divide, and forced inclusion of these "trans" kids. Now they don't have to worry about just the jock or cheerleader bullying them every day. Now they have the progressos screaming at them in their face when they walk down the hall.
Now we have an aspect of female culture that makes it their life to break males, in any and all ways that they can.
Division that can, and will break grown adults. Surrounding younger people who are going through the troubled times of puberty, and just trying to find a place for themselves, and fit in.
This mental illness horse shet is just that. Shet. It's an excuse. The problem is the kids driving each other into anger. Into rage. Into wanting to die. And wanting to take their tormentors with them.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 9:51 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:49 am to Yeahright
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Well, they took GOD out of schools so there's that. That in and of itself is the main culprit. A lot of kids have no morals and no hope.
Countries that dont believe in God have less mass killings than we do.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:49 am to Midget Death Squad
Not in all cases but i think alot has to do with parenting, either not teaching them right from wrong, no religious teaching (don't have to be a holy roller but generally have some type of belief is good), not being involved in their kids lives to help channel them to be good, etc.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:50 am to Mike da Tigah
1. We shut down all the insane asylums. Paraphrasing and approximating numbers, but in the 1950s we had like 350 beds available per some number of the pop (10,000? 100,000? I have to check), vs today there are 30 something beds available per same unit of the population.
2. Social degradation through erosion of family and exposure to poisonous content (social media, movies, games, etc.)
3. SSRI drugs prescribed to huge numbers of the young population
4. Stigmatization of male characteristics, and increased pressure to conform and be docile stunting male mental growth.
2. Social degradation through erosion of family and exposure to poisonous content (social media, movies, games, etc.)
3. SSRI drugs prescribed to huge numbers of the young population
4. Stigmatization of male characteristics, and increased pressure to conform and be docile stunting male mental growth.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:50 am to Mike da Tigah
8/1/1966 - University of Texas. 15 killed, 31 injured in shooting
9/11/1975 - Oklahoma City. HS student kills a classmate and wounds 5 others at HS
3/19/1982 - Las Vegas. HS student kills his teacher and wounds 3 others in school shooting.
11/12/1982 - Jackson, MS. 18 year old kills girlfriend in her algebra class, then kills himself.
10/5/1985 - Student opens fire at a HS football game injuring 6 students, some of whom he had fought with earlier in the day.
3/2/1987 - Missouri. 12 year old kills 13 year old classmate who bullied him, then himself
1/17/1988 - Stockton, CA. 24 year old kills 6 kids and wounds several others at an elementary school playground.
11/1/1991 - University of Iowa. Former grad student kills 4 members of faculty
5/1/1992 - California. Former student kills 3 students and 1 teacher at HS.
2/2/1996 - 14 year old middle school student kills teacher and two students in class, before killing himself.
12/1/1997 - HS student kills 3 and wounds 5 students participating in prayer circle on campus.
That's just a few of many. School shooting are, sadly, not a new phenomenon. But many often just remained a relatively local issue in terms of attention. Now, with the proliferation of media these events get mass attention that was not really possible 40, 50 years ago.
It's not that school shootings are new. What's "new" is everyone knowing about them, almost immediately, regardless of where they occur. Thus we PERCEIVE it as being a new problem...when facts show it really isn't novel
9/11/1975 - Oklahoma City. HS student kills a classmate and wounds 5 others at HS
3/19/1982 - Las Vegas. HS student kills his teacher and wounds 3 others in school shooting.
11/12/1982 - Jackson, MS. 18 year old kills girlfriend in her algebra class, then kills himself.
10/5/1985 - Student opens fire at a HS football game injuring 6 students, some of whom he had fought with earlier in the day.
3/2/1987 - Missouri. 12 year old kills 13 year old classmate who bullied him, then himself
1/17/1988 - Stockton, CA. 24 year old kills 6 kids and wounds several others at an elementary school playground.
11/1/1991 - University of Iowa. Former grad student kills 4 members of faculty
5/1/1992 - California. Former student kills 3 students and 1 teacher at HS.
2/2/1996 - 14 year old middle school student kills teacher and two students in class, before killing himself.
12/1/1997 - HS student kills 3 and wounds 5 students participating in prayer circle on campus.
That's just a few of many. School shooting are, sadly, not a new phenomenon. But many often just remained a relatively local issue in terms of attention. Now, with the proliferation of media these events get mass attention that was not really possible 40, 50 years ago.
It's not that school shootings are new. What's "new" is everyone knowing about them, almost immediately, regardless of where they occur. Thus we PERCEIVE it as being a new problem...when facts show it really isn't novel
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:55 am to Mike da Tigah
Because it is one strategy of many of a well orchestrated plan to destroy America’s society of freedom and liberty. The deaths of school kids, teachers and churchgoers is nothing more than collateral damage to the establishment and its pawns in the Democrat Party and GOPe. An armed populace is a threat to their power and control. They can’t just take the guns away without justification. Let’s see… if we take a psychologically damaged group and normalize their mentally short-circuited desires and behaviors, then sell them on the idea that they are oppressed and victimized, they will take actions with the idea that horrific results of those actions are justified. Those results will chip away at the resolve for liberties of enough of the populace that with the control of the media the populace will think the right to bear arms is a bad thing that needs to be legislated away. Then we can take away the remaining liberties and pursuit of happiness without serious opposition.
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