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re: Who here would accept a carve-out for rape, health, or “quality of life”?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:13 pm to The Eric
Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:13 pm to The Eric
Health is covered by most, rape can , and is in some states like LA, is covered with Plan B. If rape is such a giant epidemic and a daily worry for people, birth control would eliminate the risk of pregnancy from rape. Rape is a horrible disgusting thing to do to someone, but if you make that an out, some crazy women will be doing the next worst thing in ruining a boy or man’s life with false accusations. I don’t get the quality of life part. Quality of life sucked in the 30s, and there was one hell of a generation born during that time.
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:42 pm to td1
How can you allow plan b if you believe in life from conception?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:06 pm to keakar
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your bloodlust is pathetic
What the frick is wrong with people like you?
I stated no opinion on the issue, and am not sure where I would fall. Pretty sure my default is fairly restrictive.
Can you not engage a simple question without injecting childish accusations like this?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:10 pm to keakar
Just admit it, you want to see women dead.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:47 pm to Ag Zwin
Unsolved rape cases would skyrocket.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:49 pm to omegaman66
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Either it is a human life or it isn't. You can't morally justify rape and incest exemptions if it is a human life.
Yup yup.
Funny how now the lefties are whining about the no exemption version, when they were the ones that went to far and pushed it. The Right are bad for not wanting this, but nothing about how they didn't hold to the original "rare instance" piece of it all and wanted to get to infanticide levels.
Screw them. Tired of giving them an inch and them taking a mile. F'em.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:57 pm to Ag Zwin
Exceptions for rape are a bad idea in practice because they will actively encourage false rape allegations.
Exceptions for the life of the mother are fine but in practice are not technically needed, as virtually all early "life of the mother scenarios" involve non-viable pregnancies (septic abortions, ectopic pregnancies, etc.) in which the fetus has already expired or will with certainty naturally terminate if allowed to continue. There are no scenarios in the third trimester where an abortion is the standard of care for life threatening maternal complications, we just deliver the baby.
Really the biggest grey area is in the realm of potentially viable pregnancies with profound fetal abnormalities. I'm not talking about down syndrome, I'm speaking of the conditions/disorders in which the fetus will expire immediately after birth or within the first few weeks/months and with no meaningful cognitive function or quality of life whatsoever. In these scenarios ultimately it depends on whether or not you believe human life has intrinsic worth granted by a higher power. I oppose abortion as a form of birth control/convenience as I believe it is a net negative on society for reasons we can discuss elsewhere, but don't believe there is anything intrinsically worthwhile about any of us on a cosmic, eternal scale and so really dont have a problem ending a pregnancy in such a scenario. I understand why religious individuals have a problem with this, though.
Exceptions for the life of the mother are fine but in practice are not technically needed, as virtually all early "life of the mother scenarios" involve non-viable pregnancies (septic abortions, ectopic pregnancies, etc.) in which the fetus has already expired or will with certainty naturally terminate if allowed to continue. There are no scenarios in the third trimester where an abortion is the standard of care for life threatening maternal complications, we just deliver the baby.
Really the biggest grey area is in the realm of potentially viable pregnancies with profound fetal abnormalities. I'm not talking about down syndrome, I'm speaking of the conditions/disorders in which the fetus will expire immediately after birth or within the first few weeks/months and with no meaningful cognitive function or quality of life whatsoever. In these scenarios ultimately it depends on whether or not you believe human life has intrinsic worth granted by a higher power. I oppose abortion as a form of birth control/convenience as I believe it is a net negative on society for reasons we can discuss elsewhere, but don't believe there is anything intrinsically worthwhile about any of us on a cosmic, eternal scale and so really dont have a problem ending a pregnancy in such a scenario. I understand why religious individuals have a problem with this, though.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:24 pm to Ag Zwin
I’m kind of thinking let’s just let all the states handle it however they want.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:26 am to mouton
Pretty sure I just read that the only exception in Louisiana is when the mothers life is in danger.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:05 am to Ag Zwin
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Who here would accept a carve-out for rape, health, or “quality of life”?
Not me.
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 7:34 am
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:34 am to td1
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If rape is such a giant epidemic
It isn't and they refuse to address the elephant in the room. I lean pro-choice as I am for a lot of people taking themselves out of the gene pool but man do they lack accountability. Over half of abortions are for unwanted pregnancies and we all know that isn't contraceptive failure.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:06 am to jmarto1
If by "over half", you mean 95+ percent.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:18 am to Ag Zwin
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If a much stricter ban on the practice required carve outs for rape
This would have to come with a caveat that false rape claims will now be vigorously prosecuted and harshly punished, unlike now.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:18 am to CoachChappy
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These exemptions are less than 3% of abortions.
97% of abortions are for convenience
Want to see reported rapes skyrocket? Make an abortion exception for rape. Innocent babies will die. Innocent dudes will go to jail. All because of stupid whores.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:20 am to LRB1967
This is my thought as well. In case of rape, incest, not babies fault how it was conceived and still had a right to live.
In case where mothers life is at risk then yes, mother has right of self defense Even if it’s against unborn child.
We value life but outlaw killing people but as a society do make exceptions in cases of self defense or capital punishment.
In case where mothers life is at risk then yes, mother has right of self defense Even if it’s against unborn child.
We value life but outlaw killing people but as a society do make exceptions in cases of self defense or capital punishment.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:21 am to Ag Zwin
With the morning after pill why would they be needed?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:24 am to rebeloke
I’m gonna bet that those situations make up less than 2% of all abortions
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:29 am to Ag Zwin
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The pro-abortion crowd
As always, they took it to far.
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rape, health, or “quality of life”
These where the "reasonable" exceptions.
Some of the country became very cavaleer to abortion.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:45 am to Kingshakabooboo
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This is my thought as well. In case of rape, incest, not babies fault how it was conceived and still had a right to live.
In case where mothers life is at risk then yes, mother has right of self defense Even if it’s against unborn child.
I think you could make a solid argument that it's not responsible for risking the mother's life, either.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:47 am to Ag Zwin
I would make the morning after pill immediately available at every major drug store over the counter. That would cover any exception I would consider. That’s it.
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