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re: White House Weighs Defense Production Act as U.S. Refineries Maxed Out

Posted on 9/13/26 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 12:45 pm to
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The Iran war


Has directly knocked 1.8 million bpd of diesel out of the supply chain. Saying it isn't impacting the problem is simply a lie.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15385 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 12:47 pm to
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Has directly knocked 1.8 million bpd of diesel out of the supply cha


That's specific enough to have a link that goes with it.

Let's see it.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8205 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:14 pm to
LINK

This article gives relatively conservative figures on Mid East exports. Keep in mind how much diesel and jet fuel overlap.

The heavy part of jet fuel can be blended into diesel and the light part of diesel can be blended into jet to an extent.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
15021 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:25 pm to
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If I'm laughing at you, yeah.

So maybe you are.

That still would not change the fact that this Iranian war created this problem.
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The Iran war isn't impacting this problem.
Which is indeed laughable because we wouldn't even have this thread to trash each other if we're not at war with Iran. As to our difference I see a trumped up war for highly suspect able reasons. While you still take this President at this word....

... which despite the misdirect is still the reason for 6dollar diesel.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8205 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 5:20 pm to
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Let’s see it


Now youve seen it.

Middle East exports of diesel were higher by 50% than Russia before either war started. Roughly 1 million bpd for Russia and 1.8 million for the Middle East.

Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
30272 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:49 pm to
Your source is going to be disregarded as a bunch of fake numbers from a trash report by a liberal woke DEI university.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
18259 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:24 pm to
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How about the president ends the war?


AIPAC won’t allow that.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
5741 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:47 pm to
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How about the president ends the war?


This doesn’t solve the problem and stopping the war isn’t going to provide any difference in relief.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15385 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:12 am to
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LSU0358


Honestly, I started on a reply and stopped. There's so much conflicting information about what is to blame for the price hikes I'm just not interested enough to sort it out. For example, the article you referenced said the same thing I did re: we have crude oil, we just can't refine it fast enough. It also said that Russia was the second largest exporter of diesel fuel behind the US in the world until it effectively banned exportation earlier this year due to their war, which doesn't make sense in light of the stat you posted about the Middle East vs Russia.

So I could be wrong abut the Iran war having little to no impact and simply don't care enough to find out in the face of all of the conflicting info.

Because even if I am wrong, we don't need to stop the war over it.
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 12:16 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15385 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:15 am to
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While you still take this President at this word


When did I quote the President?

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That still would not change the fact that this Iranian war created this problem.


Nope. If nothing else your buddy proved with his link that it's a multi-faceted problem.

BTW, what is your understanding of the global effects of a nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel?

Because from what I have read, $6 diesel would sound like ice cream and cake if that were to happen.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
176058 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:19 am to
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BTW, what is your understanding of the global effects of a nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel?


Only one of them has nukes. Why would there be an exchange?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15385 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:44 am to
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Only one of them has nukes.


Why does only one have nukes?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
39154 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 9:15 am to
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These clowns have enough money to do this themselves. Instead they’ve held out, straining the tax payers wallet, to get the free money from gvt. Hell, we’ve seen oil trade at higher prices per barrel before and it not be this high at the pump. Where is that extra money going?


you have zero clue wtf you are talking about.

when you talk about market forces, market uncertainty, price fluctuations all over the map and the crazy regulations....yea...stfu you have zero clue
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15385 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:58 am to
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Only one of them has nukes.


Just asking again.

Why is it that only one of them has nukes?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15385 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

Only one of them has nukes.


Why is it that only one of them has nukes?
Posted by MightyJoeYoung
Member since Jul 2026
299 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:48 pm to
So now the anti-commie board wants to... Federalize private oil facilities?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
27548 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:06 pm to
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How about the president ends the war?


The president asked Ukraine to stop bombing Russian refineries.

Why would Ukraine care what we ask? They are about to enter the 5th year of this war of aggression by the russians.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15385 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 8:11 am to
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Only one of them has nukes.


Clearly you missed my question the first few times, so here it is again:

Why is it that only one of them has nukes?
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
10100 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 8:37 am to
How about reducing the Federal Regulations to build and operate refineries?

Regulations impact construction costs and add to operation costs.

The California crap is due to fake greenhouse issues.
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