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White House Weighs Defense Production Act as U.S. Refineries Maxed Out

Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:06 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:06 pm
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The White House is considering using the Defense Production Act to add U.S. refining capacity, with American refineries already running at 98% capacity and diesel prices above $6 per gallon for the first time.

The proposal was discussed during President Donald Trump’s recent meeting with nearly a dozen U.S. refiners, according to Reuters. No decision has been made, and discussions are expected to continue.

Refining executives told administration officials that federal money would produce more barrels faster if it were used to expand existing plants or improve refinery efficiency. Building an entirely new refinery would cost billions and take years.

The Defense Production Act gives the president authority to provide financial assistance and direct industrial resources toward materials and capacity considered necessary for national defense.

Trump laid the groundwork in April, when he issued a presidential determination declaring domestic petroleum production, refining and logistics capacity essential to national defense. The order authorized purchases, purchase commitments and financial instruments under Section 303 of the DPA to increase that capacity.

U.S. refiners have little spare room today. Refinery utilization reached 98% in late August after spending three consecutive months above 95%, the longest such stretch since 2000.


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Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
5062 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:09 pm to
These clowns have enough money to do this themselves. Instead they’ve held out, straining the tax payers wallet, to get the free money from gvt. Hell, we’ve seen oil trade at higher prices per barrel before and it not be this high at the pump. Where is that extra money going?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
30113 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:15 pm to
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Hell, we’ve seen oil trade at higher prices per barrel before and it not be this high at the pump. Where is that extra money going?


Well the price per barrel of oil is just one input.

Salaries, machinery costs, regulatory costs, etc have all increased downstream, at the refineries, and in the transport to gas stations since 2022 (when gasoline was higher) and especially since 2008 (peak of oil price but not gasoline price, not inflation adjusted, though).

Same refinery baw position that paid say…$35 an hour at the plant in 2008 now pays say…$55 an hour. Or whatever, but you get my drift.
This post was edited on 9/11/26 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4832 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:27 pm to
It is interesting the increasing crack spread pressure in the market.

There are several pretty large refineries that are currently shut down, several within the last 2 years that I imagine the cost to restart them would be worth it even in the medium term.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
11451 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:47 pm to
Aren’t there two refineries in Cali that are sitting idle ?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100250 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:50 pm to
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Aren’t there two refineries in Cali that are sitting idle ?


Gav probably turned it into a unhoused playground by now
Posted by BWHLSU
Member since Jul 2026
251 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:55 pm to
Let's just cut to the chase: If at any point during the meeting, most representatives of Big Oil said the sentence "and in the interest of stockholder value, this could be very beneficial" we'll find a way to go forward with shuttered refinery refurbishment and restart. Just my prediction.

And frick it. We need the capability to not strain Americans on something preventable in the name of profit. America First should be just that.
Posted by Northshoretiger87
Member since Apr 2016
4987 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:58 pm to
How about the president ends the war?
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8196 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:02 pm to
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It is interesting the increasing crack spread pressure in the market.


Russia used to send ~1.0 million barrels / day of ulsd onto the global market pre Ukraine war, that is now down to 80,000 barrels/day. The Middle East produced ~1.8 million barrels/day of diesel and jet fuel to the global market and that has dropped to pretty much zero.

Worldwide consumption in 2025 was around 28 million barrels/day. That means in the last two years 10% of supply has been removed from the global market.

Ukraine bombing Russian refineries removed 3.5% and the Iranian war removed 6.5%.

The 6.5% removal is a war of choice. Trump started a war with his Energy Secretary telling him it was a bad idea and he did it anyways.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
8149 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:04 pm to
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Same refinery baw position that paid say…$35 an hour at the plant in 2008 now pays say…$55 an hour. Or whatever, but you get my drift.


This is damn close to spot on.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
30113 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:09 pm to
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We need the capability to not strain Americans on something preventable in the name of profit. America First should be just that.


Then I guess government should start building refineries, because shareholders apparently aren't big fans of their hard earned dollars investing in large scale refineries, from what it sounds like. Or it takes time.

Unless you think those shareholder dollars should be confiscated.
Posted by PaulDrake
L.A. & Bayou Pa Pon
Member since Feb 2023
1065 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:13 pm to
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quote:
Aren’t there two refineries in Cali that are sitting idle ?



Gav probably turned it into a unhoused playground by now


Yes, the unhoused are using the refineries as a meet up place to pleasure themselves and others as incouraged by Newscum who is said to be an "active" participant.

#Diddy Oil/ Hair Gel

Posted by BWHLSU
Member since Jul 2026
251 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:14 pm to
Welp, I guess the energy sector, it's shareholders vs America First just don't see eye to eye and Energy is a scourge. I didn't vote for that.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
67218 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:15 pm to
The US set a record exporting 54.2 million barrels of diesel in August. Until that is stopped, we would just be funding the oil companies’ refinery expansion allowing for more exports.
Posted by BWHLSU
Member since Jul 2026
251 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:20 pm to
He doesn't get that. Exporting is shareholder value. frick us here in the states.

So, either today was a dog and pony show (he linked in the OP) or restarts to refineries is beneficial. It can't be both.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
30113 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:22 pm to
I see what you're doing. You and Maxine Waters would have gotten along. I'm guessing you cheered her committee hearing comments in 2008.
Posted by BWHLSU
Member since Jul 2026
251 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:26 pm to
I'm doing what exactly? You've even seen my comments on your OT thread. Your comparing me to a trash Lib doesn't phase me. Im mature enough to talk through this without even a retort like Retard! or something remedial.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
30113 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:33 pm to
You know what would also bring down the price of gasoline and diesel?

We could limit SG&A for employees and contractors of refineries. Cap their income, bonuses, benefits and per diem. From the janitor all the way up to the CEO.

Hell...then we could make the break even point to drill and produce oil in the U.S. by having the feds takeover all mineral rights. No longer have to negotiate with those pesky private mineral owners. They probably only have those mineral right because their great grandaddy stole them from someone. No more 25% royalty payouts to those crooks. Just 12.5% to the feds like the other federal acreage.
Posted by BWHLSU
Member since Jul 2026
251 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:43 pm to
So, who here is being hypothetical and hyperbolic after that rant?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25424 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:45 pm to
I expect an explosion at one of these refineries any day now. Hope not.
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