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re: White House considers plan B as DOGE cuts hit a wall on the Hill

Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:55 am to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18813 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:55 am to
You have to understand how congress has acted to ensure their control over the government.

First, the impoundment act of 1974. Up until that point congress approved the budgets for the various departments BUT, BUT it was up to the office of management and budget WITHIN the executive branch, to ensure that money was spent on what it was budgeted for ie no clandestine NGOs. With the impoundment act congress was ensured the money HAD TO BE SPENT, regardless, it had to be spent on something if it was budgeted.

Second, ONLY a budget can be passed with majority votes, the rest require 60 votes to pass, which conveniently they have ensured nothing can pass. Odd isnt it, with all the "cultural revolutions" all the racial, sexual, monetary divides......no party ever gets the super majority.....and nothing ever gets done....its as if the election system is fixed or something. So we are stuck with omnibus bills with the kitchen sink stuck in there and everyone goes on their merry way.

Third, they even stuck in a template where any increase in military has to be offset by spending on social programs. Nice, so the MIC gets their money and the dems get every social kickback imaginable.

Fourth, they make the issue of governing so complex its virtually impossible to figure out how an idea would become a bill and then a law. Thats because our govt is run by...lawyers....so they make things as legally hazy as possible.

The only difference between the US and a 3rd world dictatorship.....there are more zeros in the theft of citizens money.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162878 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:00 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162878 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:06 am to
quote:

- why should Congress codify the cuts when the Trump administration is expected to spend more than ever ? What is the executive branch cutting?

- Congressman don't want their names associated with mass government layoffs that could prove unpopular before the midterms

- DOGE constantly changes their own savings number.
I will ask this again...

Can you post the numbers/percentages of red state people affected by DOGE cuts?

Regarding the executive cutting back. Let's start with Trump not taking a salary.

Whatever layoff's have already happened. DOGE is still working finding more fraud.

You can't polish this turd. Historic FINALLY CALLED-OUT-- fraud and abuse by govt. With most of it at NGO's, USAID, going against the best interests of Americans-Has congress critters stalled like deer in headlights.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162878 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:27 am to
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Actually vote in the Primaries in 2026. Get rid of them. America 1st candidates only.
This is the answer. They are counting on us all to give up.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162878 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:28 am to
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 7:30 am
Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
4447 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:32 am to
Trump needs to go live from the White House on every network and streaming site in prime time to call out everyone stonewalling
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3738 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:43 am to
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Orange just needs to go full dictator


Bukele Mode. It’s the only solution. Sadly I think things must get way worse before enough people have the stomach to face reality.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26974 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:48 am to
The GOPe are cowards. They know the Democrats are sitting there just waiting to run ads about how the Republicans are cutting aid to the poor and elderly.

The Republicans need to stand up and tell people that they are cutting waste and fraud and that if we don't do it now, it will be done when our economy collapses under the weight of the debt.

Our choice is: Do you want Sesame Street for Iraq and Hamster fight club now, or do you want Social Security and Medicare later?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52317 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:50 am to
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Orange just needs to go full dictator

That’s the same as letting the Dems have their way with Truth Commissions, etc. Either way it is authoritarianism that will end in the same place.

There is no other way then to fight through our institutions. That’s how the Marxists got such insidious control and that’s how to root them out. Any other way is dictatorship. You might like the initial blush, but you won’t tolerate it for long.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162878 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 11:16 pm to
They have a plan B bump.

And Thank God, they do.

Turtle and his minions can GFT!
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26333 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 12:04 am to
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They don't even want to be selfish pricks and stay in power.


Its easier to bitch about what you would do once you are in power, then to actually have the power and do something about it. When you are in power, you have to put up or shut up, and I honestly dont think either party WANTS to be in charge. I think they just want to be able to complain how the other party is doing it all wrong.

Remember, Affordable Heatlh Care? "Had to pass it to know what was in it" 6 years of bitching and moaning about how they would fix it. Then the Rs get the House, Senate and WH. Now they have the opportunity to do something and they all sit and stare at each other like a fricking deer in head lights.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16873 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 2:05 am to
They are all in on the steal except maybe a few I've said it before, Dems or not trumps problem, it republicans
Posted by TrailDawg77
Member since Oct 2018
788 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 2:21 am to
Nothing will ever really change until the people take the power back. No one in government is coming to save us. Trump has shown the tenacity and resolve to fight the machine but he needs alot of help from the voters who put him there. The establishment will not relinquish power. The only way is by replacing them at the ballot box but I fear their claws are dug in too deep.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31336 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 3:21 am to
quote:

- why should Congress codify the cuts when the Trump administration is expected to spend more than ever ? What is the executive branch cutting?



The DOGE cuts weren’t really much of anything, more theatrical than anything else. Certainly not even a scratch compared to the lost tax revenue from the tax cuts, so the debt keeps going up up up. The only way out of this hole is cuts AND tax increases.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21484 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 6:21 am to
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I just don't understand why they don't want to follow the blueprint.


Lobbyists and bureaucratic corruption are the reasons. I have said this over and over, the only way we get a better federal government is to elect better congressional representation.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 6:30 am to
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Do they think that the democrats are so frightening with Temu Obama that they can take their masks off early?

If we all stay home, they don't care they lose the gavel. They want Trump impeached and they know if we punish them out Trump is a sitting duck.

They are insidious.


So I guess that's what James Comey meant after all.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9620 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 6:45 am to

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I just don't understand why they don't want to follow the blueprint.


Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6594 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 6:52 am to
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The only way out of this hole is cuts AND tax increases.


No, the only way out of this hole is to end international corporate ownership of the federal printing press.

Tax increases. Yeah. There's a great idea.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12578 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 7:02 am to
Do the founding fathers like leftist alts like yourself?
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12578 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 7:04 am to
Hahaha another one of our “true conservatives” outting himself as nothing more than a tds riddled bitch.
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