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re: Whether or not Trump is a megalomaniac, it's advantageous to appear to be one.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:20 am to NawlinsTiger9
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:20 am to NawlinsTiger9
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Next level coping mechanism here
Dear Leader always right, even when wrong
I'm just recognizing reality. Despite the wording of the Constitution, Presidents have always (successfully) treated the military as their own Praetorian Guard. That's quite a bargaining chip in international relations.
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:21 am to TX Tiger
Aside from the fact that the Nobel Committee is non governmental and private. Plus, the foundation is based in Sweden, not Norway.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 11:22 am
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:21 am to IvoryBillMatt
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I believe in realpolitik. International relations are governed only by power.
Simple question: NATO membership makes America more powerful in the world than without it, yes?
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:24 am to KiwiHead
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Aside from the fact that the Nobel Committee is non governmental and private.
This is the fun part for me. Do you think Trump really thought that the Norwegian government picks Nobel winners?
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:26 am to IvoryBillMatt
Does Trump or his people realize that the Norwegians have nothing to do with the Nobel Prize? They don't even house the Foundation HQ. Unless Oslo is the new Stockholm.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:27 am to IvoryBillMatt
I'm liking the fact that he sent the letter to Oslo instead of where he should have.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:28 am to KiwiHead
Oh you haven’t heard? It’s 10-dimensional chess to act like a petulant simpleton
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:28 am to Decatur
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Simple question: NATO membership makes America more powerful in the world than without it, yes?
No, we are NATO. Every other country is weaker without us.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:29 am to Jugbow
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You just said you didn’t vote for Trump
Nope. I didn’t tell your dumbass I didn’t or I did.
MoT struggled mightily with English as well and comprehension overall.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 11:35 am
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:31 am to Jugbow
We use the bases of our NATO allies abroad to project our power worldwide, yes?
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:32 am to Decatur
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Simple question: NATO membership makes America more powerful in the world than without it, yes?
That's an excellent, but not simple, question. We should have a national discussion about that. The world has changed greatly since 1949.
Yes, NATO is a force multiplier, but at what cost and is that worth the bang for the buck? Did selective NATO participation matter to the failures in Afghanistan and Iraq?
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:35 am to Decatur
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We use the bases of our NATO allies abroad to project our power worldwide, yes?
And they benefit from us being there. Would you rather a fire station a few miles away or 50?
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 11:36 am
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:35 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Yes, NATO is a force multiplier, but at what cost and is that worth the bang for the buck?
It’s only the most successful collective defense alliance in history.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 11:36 am
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:46 am to theballguy
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If the US was not there, the Russians could take it in 2 hours or less.
Dumb post is dumb. Russia couldn’t even maintain a supply line to Kyiv. Yet somehow they are going to land troops and prevent them from immediately being bombed by surrounding countries with only one aircraft carrier that’s always broken?
Reality is completely different from your fantasy about Russia and China.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:52 am to Decatur
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We use the bases of our NATO allies abroad to project our power worldwide, yes?
Good point, but stores give cops free coffee for a reason. Despite all the bluster, we would have still have adequate bases throughout the world through agreements negotiated with individual countries. We have had our lease of Guantanamo Bay since 1903.
Of course, you know countries like Japan, South Korea, Bahrain, Qatar host major U.S. bases outside NATO.
With our unparalleled dominance, land bases are not as important.
The bottom line is that countries act in their self interests. It's in the overwhelming interest of most countries to grant the United States military access.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 11:53 am
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:58 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Despite all the bluster, we would have still have adequate bases
Is guess that’s one way of looking at how it will make us weaker.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 12:07 pm to Decatur
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Is guess that’s one way of looking at how it will make us weaker.
I'm conceeding that it will probably make us weaker, but I doubt by a meaningful amount.
The only armed conflict for which we would need allies is with China. Do you think the UK, for instance, would sit that one out but for Article V?
Posted on 1/19/26 at 12:13 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:My experience has been no matter what I say to a representative or the person I have voted for, it is ignored. They will take whatever they want whenever they want it. They will do whatever they want whenever they want to.
Then, they can express their pleasure or displeasure: -through their representatives in Congress (cutting or expanding funding) and -at the ballot box
The defensive stance of, “well, I am not as bad as the other guy” is repulsive. It’s akin to, “the other guy was going to kick you in the nuts, I am only going to punch you in the mouth.” How about neither of those things?
The government is going to spend trillions more than what they collect and want us to be content if they throw a few crumbs back along the way. I don’t give a flying frick about threats, negotiating tactics, showmanship, or personality…just quit taking so much of what I work for.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 12:13 pm to Decatur
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Dude are you serious?
thats RICH coming from you
Posted on 1/19/26 at 12:22 pm to Pragmatist2025
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The government is going to spend trillions more than what they collect and want us to be content if they throw a few crumbs back along the way. I don’t give a flying frick about threats, negotiating tactics, showmanship, or personality…just quit taking so much of what I work for.
Your name fits. What's your position about Greenland. Worth buying or not?
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