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re: Where’s JBE?

Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14485 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:00 pm to
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I would say that 80% of the state, if we are being honest, would be considered populist, especially with economics.

Problem is, 80% of the state isn't Democrat. We have a whole bunch of right-leaning, gun-loving, abortion-hating white dudes who love them some populism.

Here's an example. It's well known that one of the ways we can fix our horrible tax system, is be significantly rolling back the homestead exemption, and significantly cutting sales tax rates. It can be done easily in a way that is revenue-neutral. However, property taxes are more stable than sales taxes, as well as are more controlled at the local level. That means we have a more predictable budget, which helps us get lower bond interest rates, etc.

But if you even mention rolling back the homestead exemption, 80% of the state loses their collective shite. I mean, the long-time assessor in Jefferson Parish - a pretty conservative place - used to publicly advocate for DOUBLING the homestead exemption. It's already the highest in the country.


THIS x 3,500,000!!!!!!
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32946 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:25 pm to
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This is the brain trust that thought running Rispone was a good idea instead of finding a quality candidate who can actually speak intelligently.


They didn’t pick Rispone. They haven’t picked anyone. That’s why Abraham has no money. They knew JBE wasn’t an easy defeat, so they are saving their guy for 2024. It should be pretty obvious to anyone who is objective.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28336 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:54 pm to
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They knew JBE wasn’t an easy defeat


The guy is polling in the 40’s, anyone with a pulse would have him on his heels by now.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27376 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:48 pm to
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Oh wait, R good D bad, that solves it. It’s all stupidly ironic.


Correct, Louisiana's problems go far beyond R vs D. We have had good governors( not all) in this state going back to McKeithen who found themselves hamstrung. Only guy who could get real results in the last 40 years was Mike Foster. Roemer had some good ideas, conservative ideas, long term solutions and he succeeded in uniting R&D in preserving the status quo at the time which then begat Duke v. Edwards. Jindal ended up succumbing to being ineffectual as well.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6442 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 2:11 pm to
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So far he’s doing well to run away from real issues and put himself in a favorable light


He doesnt have to run on real issues when one Republican isnt campaigning, and the other only speaks to supporting Trump.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 2:43 pm to
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They didn’t pick Rispone. They haven’t picked anyone.


Correct.

The LA GOP can advise, influence but they have no role in ultimately selecting who the candidates are.

The idea that LA GOP can just order a candidate to run or stop running is one of the dumbest things on this board.

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That’s why Abraham has no money.


Abraham has Boysie Bollinger on his fundraising finance committee and he supported JBE back in 2015.

And he just locked in 2 million for an ad buy in targeted markets.

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They knew JBE wasn’t an easy defeat, so they are saving their guy for 2024. It should be pretty obvious to anyone who is objective.




And you were doing alright.

If the LAGOP was really as powerful as some people like you on this board claim they are, they would have never allowed Bobby Jindal's stupid, pointless and reckless feud with David Vitter to morph into an opening where a democrat could win the Governor's mansion.

The LA GOP is nowhere near as powerful as you think they are.

The next election after this is 2023 btw, not 2024.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 2:45 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35938 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:17 pm to
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He doesnt have to run on real issues when one Republican isnt campaigning, and the other only speaks to supporting Trump.

You are right. If neither candidate brings up our problems then he has no reason to bring them up, and so far neither guy has made much of an argument to the masses to show what they can do different.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32946 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:24 pm to
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The idea that LA GOP can just order a candidate to run or stop running is one of the dumbest things on this board.


Nobody said that. But they haven’t backed a candidate or given any money to anyone. After this much time, that’s 1) an indictment of the candidates or 2) shows they don’t really want to unseat JBE all that badly.

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If the LAGOP was really as powerful as some people like you on this board claim they are, they would have never allowed Bobby Jindal's stupid, pointless and reckless feud with David Vitter to morph into an opening where a democrat could win the Governor's mansion.


The people I’m talking about were not running things then. That feud shifted the power structure in the party.

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The LA GOP is nowhere near as powerful as you think they are.


I’m not talking about who the party chair or anyone like that. I’m talking about the big money players.

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The next election after this is 2023 btw, not 2024.

They will be sworn in, in 2024.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6442 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:29 pm to
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You are right. If neither candidate brings up our problems then he has no reason to bring them up, and so far neither guy has made much of an argument to the masses to show what they can do different.


It is so frustrating, because he is beatable.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:30 pm to
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But they haven’t backed a candidate or given any money to anyone. A


Because they can't back a candidate during the first round. That would be massively unfair to the candidates themselves whether or not they're on the receiving end of the money and endorsement.

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The people I’m talking about were not running things then.


Doesn't matter, the power they have right now is still the same as it was back then.

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I’m talking about the big money players.


Those "big money players" couldn't care less about the LA GOP itself, they're putting money and support behind the actual candidates themselves. That's where the power is.

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They will be sworn in, in 2024.



Lame CYA.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:35 pm to
Too early for JBE to have gone hunting again with a trial lawyer contributor.

Maybe he is in Hollywood again? Did he take plane load of supporter to Rome again? maybe to Havana for "economic development"?
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 3:49 pm
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36703 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:46 pm to
Some post maybe on the Ot said his polls were pulling more than 50%. I was like wth??
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35938 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:55 pm to
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It is so frustrating, because he is beatable.



Maybe this will get people’s attention, but maybe it won’t.

LINK

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Although the state’s unemployment rate remained at 4.3% in July, the lowest since 2008, Louisiana was the only state in the U.S. to post a year-over decline in employment numbers last month


Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14485 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:05 pm to
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Nobody said that. But they haven’t backed a candidate or given any money to anyone. After this much time, that’s 1) an indictment of the candidates or 2) shows they don’t really want to unseat JBE all that badly.


You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the state party works. They work for candidates not the other way around.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23024 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:21 pm to
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Up vote! So much promise and potential pissed away! He did fine his first 4 years and earned reelection. But then he coasted with delusions of a presidential run. But as Babeling Blankstare Blanco showed, coasting when shite-hits-the-fan is no way to run a state. When oil taxes crashed and caused a $2 billion shortfall in Louisiana’s too big government, he did nothing for 2 critical years!


I was the biggest Jindal fan during his first term and some of his second, but by the end he was just awful. It was so disappointing because he could have easily been the best governor in our history.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69264 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:27 pm to
He was a legit presidential possibility the first few years of his term.
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