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When do the DEMs/Biden get serious about some Student Loan Forgiveness?

Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:30 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:30 am
Do they target this policy just before midterms or do they wait for 2024 when Biden will need some positive PR for the Presidential race? Or do they attempt both?

I don't think they will offer some crazy "forgive all loans" policy but some relief, say, $10-20k in relief. This actually would do a lot of good in helping the people feeling the negative effects of SLs more than cancelling all debt for everyone.

I have to imagine this is inevitable and the only reason something hasn't happened yet is they want this bullet in the chamber for emergencies.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:31 am to
How do you do something without doing something?

That’s what they’ll do.
Posted by Grinder
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:31 am to
Never.

You borrowed the money, you pay it back.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:33 am to
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How do you do something without doing something?

That’s what they’ll do.

That's exactly how the fringe left will see a $10k forgiveness
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:34 am to
At some point people are going to have to learn from their mistakes.

Paying tens of thousands of dollars for a degree in art history or women’s studies is going to be a harsh lesson. Let them learn it.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:34 am to
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You borrowed the money, you pay it back.


Seriously. If the Dems do this, it will piss me off and never vote for them for the rest of my life.

As a parent that busted arse and deferred vacations and new cars so I could put two kids through college without debt - it’s the hill I die upon.
Posted by Statestreet
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:35 am to
Is this when they will legalize weed too?
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:35 am to
Universities need to back student loans, not the government
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:36 am to
They should make it dischargeable in bankruptcy like any other loan.

They want to default, then the lender can force them into bankruptcy if they don't do it themselves.
Posted by Thundercles
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:36 am to
I expect they're going to trot it out just before midterms.

It won't actually do that much good. I think they ran the numbers and the 10k for each person is only a fraction for most borrowers.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:38 am to
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Universities need to back student loans,


We should also give out loans based on expected earnings. So, if you can make $50k coming out of college with your degree, you can take out a total of X of student loan debt.

If you can make $200k, you can take out more.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:39 am to
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They should make it dischargeable in bankruptcy like any other loan.


Then you shouldn’t be able to get a transcript from your school.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:39 am to
I expect them to dangle the carrot this year.

I don’t think they will pay all student debt because it’s just impractical. But I do think they will offer “a round of student loan forgiveness” in some amount, maybe around $25K. I think they will continue to bring it up before each election, promising “another round of student loan forgiveness” if people vote Democrat again.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:40 am to
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It won't actually do that much good. I think they ran the numbers and the 10k for each person is only a fraction for most borrowers.

I think you're wrong here. There are a TON of people who have what we would consider small amounts weighing them down. Think people who are poor and only made it a couple semesters then quit. There are TONS of these people and their loans are probably sub-$30k in most cases.

This will do very little for the art history majors walking dogs in coastal-urban areas who have 6-figures in debt.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:40 am to
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Do they target this policy just before midterms


If the dems don’t address it before the midterms then they have no shot of keeping control of Congress.

Personally I don’t want them to do it because I think people should pay their debts. However if they do get it passed then I would not complain too much if my student loans got forgiven
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:40 am to
This White House keeps telling us that unemployment is below 4%, wages are up, and the economy is booming. If all that’s true, these people’s debts will get solved by the market.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:40 am to
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I don’t think they will pay all student debt because it’s just impractical. But I do think they will offer “a round of student loan forgiveness” in some amount, maybe around $25K. I think they will continue to bring it up before each election, promising “another round of student loan forgiveness” if people vote Democrat again.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:41 am to
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If all that’s true, these people’s debts will get solved by the market.

I can't wait for some DEM shill to argue that inflation was their incredibly intelligent and secret plan to address SL debt
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:41 am to
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round of student loan forgiveness” in some amount, maybe around $25K


Means tested so it won’t help anyone who doesn’t already vote for them.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6095 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:42 am to
Pay off YOUR debts, bum!
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