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Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:13 am to TigerAxeOK
quote:I actually wasn't making a comparison. But just to be clear - you DO believe in reparations, but just happen to think slavery is not severe enough to warrant it?
You have to compare slavery in America to the Holocaust? Maybe I just took that wrong but you can go frick yourself. Those are two completely separate evils.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:16 am to gthog61
quote:I've said over and over that any push for reparations (which I don't actually support) should be linked to Jim Crow, not slavery. Millions of living Americans were crushed under the heel of Jim Crow - for the explicit benefit of OTHER Americans who now hold it against them for having been fricked in the first place.
On the whole it is stupid - go back to slavery and everybody has 32 or 64 direct ancestors, probably 60% of the country has at least one st=lave in there.
So would it work like baseball playoff shares, where you get pieces depending on how black you are? What if you are black but came over later? Do illegal immigrants get to pay?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:19 am to L.A.
quote:Very easy for you to say. I' guessing your parents/grandparents were able to buy a house on a blue-collar wage back in the day...a house which skyrocketed in value over the years and was the foundation for more house-buying and wealth building (including money for college tuition).
Yes! For all her past sins, America is a great country right now. It's a great place to live for people of all races. Let's look forward, not backward.
For no reason at all other than being black, MILLIONS of fellow citizens at that exact same time were BLOCKED (often violently) from making the exact same honest trade: being a good middle-class citizen and getting a mortgage.
And now those same people are scorned for being on the wrong end of a wealth gap.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:19 am to Big Scrub TX
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Millions of living Americans were crushed under the heel of Affirmative Action - for the explicit benefit of OTHER Americans who now hold it against them for having been fricked in the first place.
See how that works.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:29 am to Rawdawgs
Or the reparations should just be a one way first class ticket back to Africa.
It would be an investment.
It would be an investment.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:46 am to Ace Midnight
Hey I will match reparation money dollar for dollar with the money collected from the descendants of thr people that kidnapped them and sold them to the slave traders on the African coast.
Hint: not one dime will be collected from the black folks that did the kidnappings.
Hint: not one dime will be collected from the black folks that did the kidnappings.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:49 am to Aristo
I'm Irish. Irish were slaves. Where my money?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:13 am to The Great McGinty
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If we go 400... I'm for going back to collect my 1/16 Cherokee reparations. We really got the raw end of the deal with all your disease and superior weaponary and military techniques shoved right up our arse.
You can collect it now. Its already being paid. Get with your tribe and get your check and free healthcare
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:20 am to SidewalkDawg
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Hypothetically speaking, say we were going to pay black people reparations. What’s a good number to make up for the wrongs of the past?
I don't need a cash figure. Make me tax exempt all across the board. It would work out for me and my children. Let me keep what Ive earned, and not have to pay property taxes or taxes on anything I purchase. I'd be willing to pay sales tax at stores, but not on larger purchases
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:30 am to winston318
yea but they get to blame it on Obama so everything is ok
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:44 am to Big Scrub TX
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A better argument is for reparations for Jim Crow, since millions of direct sufferers of that persecution are still alive...and tens of millions of 1st generation descendants directly affected.
Yep, that's exactly what high crime, high drug use, low education, populations need more of, cash in their hand...
Look at how many people win the lottery and several years later are in the same shape or even worse. Liberals think money is the solution to bring people out of poverty, and while that might be true for a small percent the truth is the vast majority of the poor are where they are because of bad life choices. Money won't do you any good if you're going to blow it on drugs, strip clubs, alcohol, etc. I can't tell you how many times I've seen government constructed subsidized housing go to shite in a few years.
How many reparation recipients do you think are going to invest their money? Or pay off their debts? Or use that money to learn a trade or go to college?
Might as well burn the reparations money like the Joker did, at least 90% will be a complete waste if not counter productive.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:10 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:My point is skin color in and of itself defines neither personal history, nor point of bias, strife, etc.
What's your point?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:33 am to Covingtontiger77
I think reparations, if done correctly, might be a good idea. A $10,000 check to every african-american which can be picked up at the 1st National Bank of Rwanda.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:41 am to Covingtontiger77
Yes
There is no valid argument that giving reparations is the right thing to do. None!
It is merely another entitlement that many in the African American community already have taken advantage of for generations and many are still mired in poverty.
What would be better is to offer an accountability program that encourages them to better themselves and become self reliant. Anything else perpetuates the poverty and keeps many on the democrat plantations that leads to nowhere.
There is no valid argument that giving reparations is the right thing to do. None!
It is merely another entitlement that many in the African American community already have taken advantage of for generations and many are still mired in poverty.
What would be better is to offer an accountability program that encourages them to better themselves and become self reliant. Anything else perpetuates the poverty and keeps many on the democrat plantations that leads to nowhere.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:03 am to Big Scrub TX
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shite, we paid Japanese interment reparations - that was WAY less bad than Jim Crow.
Are you serious? Jim Crow worse than forced relocation into camps?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:07 am to mofungoo
Yep, this board flirts with outright racism too often... almost as often as it displays stunning ignorance.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:08 am to Rougarou13
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Are you serious? Jim Crow worse than forced relocation into camps?
Didn't you know, anything a black person experiences is infinitely worse than anything any other race can experience.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:14 am to Big Scrub TX
So if Jim Crow is the reason blacks continue to be poor, then how do you explain the Hispanic poverty rates, which are nearly identical to blacks?
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 10:15 am
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:37 pm to CptRusty
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how do you explain the Hispanic poverty rates, which are nearly identical to blacks?
That’s easy man. Racism and white privilege.
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