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re: When discussing Reparations, appropriate to bring w/o slavery- may not be here argument?
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:37 pm to PsychTiger
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:37 pm to PsychTiger
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:38 pm to SidewalkDawg
quote:I personally think reparations at this point are politically infeasible. I also think reparations for slavery is pretty much a silly concept. However, I don't see how anyone that is fair-minded can't at least understand the concept of reparations for Jim Crow being defensible. shite, we paid Japanese interment reparations - that was WAY less bad than Jim Crow.
How much do you want big scrub?
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:38 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Anyone affected by Jim Crow is STILL better off economically than they would be if they were living in Senegal, Gambia, or Ivory Coast.
A better argument is for reparations for Jim Crow, since millions of direct sufferers of that persecution are still alive...and tens of millions of 1st generation descendants directly affected.
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” Chief Justice John Roberts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:38 pm to Big Scrub TX
Reparations could result in some unpleasant side effects.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:40 pm to PsychTiger
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:41 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I personally think reparations at this point are politically infeasible. I also think reparations for slavery is pretty much a silly concept. However, I don't see how anyone that is fair-minded can't at least understand the concept of reparations for Jim Crow being defensible. shite, we paid Japanese interment reparations - that was WAY less bad than Jim Crow.
Hypothetically speaking, say we were going to pay black people reparations. What’s a good number to make up for the wrongs of the past?
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:57 pm to SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:02 pm to Covingtontiger77
The reparation was getting the frick out of the shithole they lived in. There would be no Michael Jordon or Oprah Winfrey without slavery. The best thing that ever happened to black people of today is slavery long ago. It was a fricking blessing. How can a group of vietnamese come here and open a nail salon and the next generation go to medical school? They fiucking work!!!!!
Poor people are poor because they are stupid and you can't fix that with reparations or anything else.
There will always be people that are too stupid to keep up, the sad thing is that they can reproduce.
Poor people are poor because they are stupid and you can't fix that with reparations or anything else.
There will always be people that are too stupid to keep up, the sad thing is that they can reproduce.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:14 pm to Big Scrub TX
What about all the other people whom migrated to this country and were beaten down and basically enslaved in the cool mills and steel mills in the north east of the country in conditions that would make plantation life look like a picknick. Hell’s Kitchen and New York, New Jeresey were all hell holes where new immigrants worked for very poor housing and meals only for over 40 years. Oh by the way slavery, especially of African males was a way of life for 2000 years before America was even conceived or was a nation.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:28 pm to L.A.
quote:That's a false argument. Black Americans during Jim Crow were AMERICANS...entitled to its rights, privileges and protections. It has nothing to do with Africa.
Anyone affected by Jim Crow is STILL better off economically than they would be if they were living in Senegal, Gambia, or Ivory Coast.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:30 pm to SidewalkDawg
quote:I have no idea. I would certainly start by looking at those that were denied housing in the mid-century and do a time value calculation of how much money they lost when they were denied their shot at home ownership (while their white counterpart had easy access to the biggest wealth generator of the century.)
Hypothetically speaking, say we were going to pay black people reparations. What’s a good number to make up for the wrongs of the past?
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:31 pm to Humanelement
quote:Right. And then they weren't discriminated against for decades due to their skin color...and/or they were able to marry into other populations.
What about all the other people whom migrated to this country and were beaten down and basically enslaved in the cool mills and steel mills in the north east of the country in conditions that would make plantation life look like a picknick. Hell’s Kitchen and New York, New Jeresey were all hell holes where new immigrants worked for very poor housing and meals only for over 40 years
quote:Oh, by the way - America is supposedly founded on ideals of INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM. I'm sorry I don't hold us to such a low bar as you.
Oh by the way slavery, especially of African males was a way of life for 2000 years before America was even conceived or was a nation.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:36 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:How about reparations for the "glass ceiling" targeting women, life before the 19th amendment, Rosy the Riveter losing her wartime job, #metoo, etc.? How about past interned Japanese? How about horrible treatments doled out to Chinese workers in the late 19th early 20th centuries?
A better argument is for reparations for Jim Crow
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:39 pm to Big Scrub TX
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, it's a ridiculous argument. A better argument is for reparations for Jim Crow, since millions of direct sufferers of that persecution are still alive...and tens of millions of 1st generation descendants directly affected.
Meh, unless you can somehow target only those who legislated and enforced injustices against blacks, this is just robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:49 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:But it's still a fact, correct?
That's a false argument.
quote:True, no doubt about it. And it sucks for them. But more discrimination isn't the answer. How did Affirmative Action work out for blacks? Not well. And it was at the expense of other Americans who were often more deserving of jobs, college opportunities, business opportunities, etc. Jim Crow was terrible, but there's no way to put that toothpaste back in the tube. It's over. It has been over for 54 years, over half a century. Now let's go forward together toward a more perfect union. There's no better country in the world right now for African Americans than The United States of America. Living in the past isn't going to help African Americans get ahead.
Black Americans during Jim Crow were AMERICANS...entitled to its rights, privileges and protections
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:55 pm to Covingtontiger77
The wealth that was created by slavery was lost by fighting/destruction caused by the civil war and the freeing of the slaves.
The debt incurred by the US for fighting the civil war was also greater than wealth created by slavery.
Most importantly 300k+ people who never owned a slave spilled their blood to end it
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:01 pm to Loserman
quote:True. And that's another problem with reparations. I don't believe in collective guilt. I didn't own slaves. Our family has done our genealogy going back to the 1600’s There are no slave owners in the family. Why should my family have to pay anything?
Most importantly 300k+ people who never owned a slave spilled their blood to end it
This post was edited on 2/10/18 at 1:30 am
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:03 pm to Big Scrub TX
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No, it's a ridiculous argument.
Actually, the ridiculous argument is the whole concept of "reparations". It's just dumb.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:13 pm to Big Scrub TX
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No, it's a ridiculous argument.
I know!....I know!!. How about they are getting an education so they can pull their own sorry asses out whatever they're whining about....and healthcare when they're sick...and all that ..you know..good stuff?
How many wish they and their parents and grandparents were still on the "Dark Continent"?
Bunch of whiny con artists.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:17 pm to SidewalkDawg
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What’s a good number to make up for the wrongs of the past?
Tree fidy.
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