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When discussing Reparations, appropriate to bring w/o slavery- may not be here argument?

Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Covingtontiger77
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:10 pm
It is an interesting question. Without the people bringing those slaves from Africa and the islands it is entirely possible that the African American population as a whole today is a fraction of what it is.

Thus, reparations for the terrible ill that is and was slavery seems misguided: if not for the thing some now seek reparations for most would not be here.

Rather, they or some form of themselves would be struggling on the continent of Africa instead of here in what is considered one of if not the best nation on earth.

Isn’t this a valid argument against?
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:12 pm to
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Isn’t this a valid argument against?


No, it's a ridiculous argument. A better argument is for reparations for Jim Crow, since millions of direct sufferers of that persecution are still alive...and tens of millions of 1st generation descendants directly affected.

What is your opinion of the reparations that Israel received for WWII? Applying your logic, Israel might never have existed if not for the Holocaust. frick 'em, right?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:14 pm to
If we're going to use 20th/21st Century money/hereditary "tortfeasors" (for lack of a better term) to be responsible for correcting wrongs going back 400 years, why are we stopping at 400 years?

Why wouldn't we go back to either Eden (for those so inclined) or to Cro-Magnon (or earlier)? What's magical about 400 years?
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 5:15 pm
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:14 pm to
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When discussing Reparations, appropriate to



walk away
Posted by mofungoo
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:17 pm to
I think we ought to send a bill to blacks who want reparations for saving their asses.

MAGA
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:18 pm to
If not for slavery, their ancestors would have most likely been killed and/or eaten.

If they want reparations, they should contact Odumbf*ck and people like him whose ancestors sold them into slavery rather than eating them.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Aristo
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:19 pm to
If someone thinks they deserve reparations the best thing to do is sit tight, listen, and laugh on the inside and when they are done talking simply say, "that's an interesting point."
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:19 pm to
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"Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat!"


Muhammad Ali after the heavyweight title against George Foreman that was held in the African nation of Zaire in 1970, after being asked by a reporter what he thought of Africa.


We all hear routinely that the DACA kids should not be held responsible for the wrongs of their ancestors.

Next time a liberal argues reparations, ask them to please be consistent.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 5:43 pm
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:20 pm to
I like this.

Your brother robbed a bank and is jailed. You had no connection to the robbery at all; didn't know that he committed the crime. Should you be arrested since your family member is the one who did the wrong?
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:22 pm to
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walk away


What happened to your version of this gif?

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:22 pm to
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If we're going to use 20th/21st Century money/hereditary "tortfeasors" (for lack of a better term) to be responsible for correcting wrongs going back 400 years, why are we stopping at 400 years?

Why wouldn't we go back to either Eden (for those so inclined) or to Cro-Magnon (or earlier)? What's magical about 400 years?


Silly and you know it. This is the US. Reparations talk is for acts committed during the time of the US's existence. The reason to stop there is because the US was supposed to be better.

In any event, like I said, for anyone seeking political reparations, Jim Crow is a better target.
Posted by Rawdawgs
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:23 pm to
When I was working in Nigeria I had a conversation with some locals about reparations. They said if the Blacks in the US get paid they should send a bunch back to Africa, because they were the lucky ones getting to live in America.
Posted by The Great McGinty
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:23 pm to
If we go 400... I'm for going back to collect my 1/16 Cherokee reparations. We really got the raw end of the deal with all your disease and superior weaponary and military techniques shoved right up our arse.
Posted by geaux88
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:26 pm to
Well, using that logic, why not sue the estate of LBJ and all the lawmakers who came up with the "great society," and the "war on poverty?"

The economic impact on generations of American working taxpayers to give their money away for free to people who do absolutely nothing to deserve it, coupled with the complete fundamental breakdown of the nuclear black family in large segments because of it, might be cause for a MASSIVE class action law suit.

Tell ya what.....Working tax paying Americans will be willing to drop the whole subject, if the ridiculous and stupid notion of reparations is never mentioned again.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:27 pm to
I stopped making payments and it was repossessed
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:29 pm to
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I stopped making payments and it was repossessed


The struggle is real, frick The Man!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:30 pm to
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Your brother robbed a bank and is jailed. You had no connection to the robbery at all; didn't know that he committed the crime. Should you be arrested since your family member is the one who did the wrong?


Terrible example for several reasons - most notably, nobody in your tableau is a sovereign nation of indefinite lifespan. Also, if you, as the brother, received benefit from the ill-gotten gains (even if you didn't know it derived from criminal act) you might very well be subject to confiscation of those monies.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:31 pm to
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:35 pm to
How much do you want big scrub?
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