re: When did Trump jump the shark for you, personally?

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Some of you are too dense to ever get it.

Trump was an interruption to a system YOU never had a real choice in. For a time, he actually pushed back, but he was, is and always will be Donald Trump.

There isn't a replacement. There isn't a "Trump with good political skills." Oh, they'll give you fools one, but it will be as real as Romney, McCain and the endless line of Bushes. So keep judging Trump like you're in a political science class. It doesn't matter. You'll keep playing the rigged game and wondering why the needle only ever pushes in one direction. Then one day you'll be old, bitter and maybe, JUST MAYBE, wide awake.

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And I get the McCain statement in a different way. Many took it as-how dare he when he never served past a Military prep school. Or how dare he, just how dare he.

I took it in TrumpAutistic think. McCain was a showboat that his fellow Navy men have spoken about. His daddy the admiral protected his dumb arse. He was shot down because he was showboating.

But most especially the dishonorable trifling crap he did sending his aide across the pond to fry Trump. I don't care who he did that to. It was as slimy and criminally as corrupt as Obama.

Or his thumbs down to get rid of ObamaCare. He even pissed off Turtle.

McCain, Like Romney, Ryan, others are fake sleazeballs.

I still think the McCain Institute is sleazy.

McCain wasn't ever a conservative he was always a neolib democrat.

I've supported him from day one. I still continue to because of his overall policies. I don't have to agree with him on everything and I'd never expect to with anyone because that's unrealistic.

I'm very much in his camp until he proves to me that I should move on. What I don't like is that he keeps making unforced errors that are going to drain him of enough of his support that he truly is unelectable. The R's will get absolutely hammered by extension and we have dem majorities because he's done so much damage within the party and with independents. As a Cali resident this scares the hell out me because I've seen what happens up close and personal with unchecked dem governance. We absolutely do not want that at the federal level with how the dems have taken more and more extreme positions.

I like him but I don't worship at his altar. If he can control himself and become more professional, I'm good to go with him without reservations. But my God, he keeps trying to find ways to make me rethink things. A big driver of that is his going after would be allies for no reason whatsoever. He's dividing but it's a losing scenario in the end as there won't be any conquering. He has to stop with the stupid shite and it needed to happen weeks ago. If he takes a burn it all down because what difference does it make.. he'll be toxic and I'm out. We can't have that. For all of the shite everyone here piles on California.. you'll get a taste of it nationally and good luck with that.

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When did Trump jump the shark for you, personally?

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2 weeks to slow the spread and not firing Fauci.

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It just happened to leave a much more ugly impression on people than he probably predicted.

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No, it left an impression on specific people.

When he called fallen military men suckers and losers. He's single handedly been more powerful for the democrats than anyone they could ever elect as President. He gave them all the power, and will continue to do so until he goes away.

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Yeah, boy that really changed life...uh, how?

I'll take trade reform, pulling back industry into America (for a time), lowering energy costs and creating energy independence (for a time), reducing traffic at the border and pushing back on insane "asylum" laws, taking the fight economically to China (for a time), some level of tax reform (for a time), getting us out of the never ending middle eastern conflicts, getting us out of ludicrous climate treaties and pushing back on the remoras in NATO and the UN.

The above are things you will never see another US President do in your lifetime.

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All that need repeating. Especially the bolded part! People can dislike him for his bravado and personality, but a truthful person will admit that he was FANTASTIC for this country.

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All that need repeating. Especially the bolded part! People can dislike him for his bravado and personality, but a truthful person will admit that he was FANTASTIC for this country.

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He was shite on the Second Amendment, his COVID response was garbage, and he was a loser on picking most of his staff.

Sorry, but "pissing off the libs" isn't high on my list of priorities for someone to lead this country.

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When he called fallen military men suckers and losers.

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Do we even know if that's what he actually said? I always suspected he was just marveling at the manipulative powers of warmongers.

When he invited Hillary Clinton to his wedding and then when he hung out with Epstein.

So he jumped the shark for the rally, but not the J6 rowdy mall walk?

Got it.