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Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:51 pm to Groovie
quote:When it became obvious it equates to spinelessness, rather than thoughtfulness
When did being a moderate become so frowned upon?
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:52 pm to Lsupimp
when the scumbag left took over, it became "either them or us". Choose. the middle is always evil, cause you're not helping the righteous, which means that you're helping the scumbags.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:52 pm to Dale51
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Its a mask for being an unprincipled opportunist. Not really any more complicated than that.
Like Trump.
quote:
moderate
I can't think of any national moderates, but I am pretty bad at keeping up with political celebrity.
In my state, I like Horace Clemmons, but I doubt he'll ever be elected, because he's not an either/or.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:54 pm to Dale51
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The party of cultural marxism has destroyed much much more than that.
Which party is that?
Can you outline the much more that has been destroyed?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:54 pm to Groovie
I believe President Trump and Bill Clinton are both pretty moderate presidents.
ETA: Bill Clinton out of necessity maybe.
ETA: Bill Clinton out of necessity maybe.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:54 pm to Groovie
when you play in the middle of the road,
you tend to get run over
you tend to get run over
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:55 pm to Hooligan's Ghost
quote:
I assume this is directed at liberals and Democrats since moderation is part of conservative philosophy, thinking and lifestyle, hence the root word "conserve"
Are you serious ?
Just take a look at this board. Anyone who is moderate or doesn't follow along with the echo chamber gets labeled a liberal by multiple posters who can't formulate an actual argument vs a post.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:57 pm to Groovie
Moderates are mostly liberals ashamed to admit they are liberal or trying to pass their views as mainstream. For example A Want is a self proclaimed moderate on here.
Independents are mostly conservatives disgusted with the GOP
Independents are mostly conservatives disgusted with the GOP
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:57 pm to VOR
Decimation? Yes, really. You should drift out of your all-white bubble inside your gated community every once in awhile.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:57 pm to Lsupimp
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In a Culture War people draw lines in the sand. Being a self-proclaimed moderate used to mean that you saw merit in competing arguments and were ideologically non-committed. That could mean you were a wishy-washy, low-information voter or it could mean you were sincerely conflicted. Now that the camps are so well-defined and honest debate is long-dead, it's more a matter of declaring which side you are on. That's just reality. Being an American is now an entirely different proposition than it used to be, now that we have buried Truth and are cannibalizing our culture with media propaganda
You are aways on point regarding politics.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:58 pm to PepeSilvia
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Like Trump.
What are some of his moderate positions and policies that he is advocating? Travel ban...wall..defund EPA..air traffic control?? What?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:00 pm to Groovie
I'm cool with marriage equality and women's choice, but frick siding with the left on any other issue.
Gays and abortions won't turn us into Venezuela, but the rest of their bullshite can.
Gays and abortions won't turn us into Venezuela, but the rest of their bullshite can.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:01 pm to Dale51
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If Trump is a moderate, who are some past moderates who mirror his positions and values?
No one truly will mirror Trump, probably because it is impossible. But, in his day Bill Clinton was very moderate. Tough on crime, fiscally pretty conservative, but socially liberal.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:02 pm to PepeSilvia
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Which party is that? Can you outline the much more that has been destroyed?
You're playing dumb.
Traditional values or "borders, language, culture"..patriotism, religion, respect for the concept of law and order..respect for science over "scientism" to name a few.
In your opinion, are you implying that these principles have not been..at least decimated?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:02 pm to Dale51
Sorry, I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't calling Trump a moderate I was replying to this comment which I quoted at the top of my previous post.
quote:
Its a mask for being an unprincipled opportunist. Not really any more complicated than that.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:04 pm to Dale51
Trump is the most socially liberal President we've seen. Outside of abortion, which we know we had to be against, he's left of center or agnostic on everything.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:04 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Anyone who is moderate or doesn't follow along with the echo chamber gets labeled a liberal by multiple posters who can't formulate an actual argument vs a post.
My..what a compelling argument you make.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:07 pm to Dale51
He speaks truth. I consider myself liberal on social matters and conservative on fiscal issues. Balances to moderate. I do not belong to a political party. No party.
Both sides have serious problems and are full of assholes. Much like this board.
Both sides have serious problems and are full of assholes. Much like this board.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:07 pm to Loungefly85
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I'm cool with marriage equality and women's choice, but frick siding with the left on any other issue.
I think the majority of people who consider themselves moderates are pretty much libertarians, socially liberal, economically conservative. People are everywhere on the social spectrum and sometimes the Dems get those in the middle because they brand us conservatives as closed-minded so effectively, but I believe the majority of Americans are economically conservative.
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