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re: When a lib says Trump inherited a hot economy.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:19 am to KeyserSoze999
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:19 am to KeyserSoze999
When Obama claims his administration is responsible for this economic turnaround, he's outright lying. He is spin selling to his constituents. The truth is that tor economy was in such a bad state that it could only improve!
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Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:29 am to KeyserSoze999
Was it bad, good, or just okay?
Was it better than 2009?
No one will know for years how much everything has changed.
Just like how the job reports have seemed positive for many years. The Obama, Trump, or the Market is not taking the fact that over 200,000 baby boomers retire each month. If the new job reports doesn’t pass the 200,000 new jobs it is not an increase.
Each admin has taken responsibility for the increase of new jobs. Not only are they not taking into account of the actual jobs created, but they are not taking the fact millennials are entering the job market at a later age.
This is why we won’t know the real numbers for years. It will probably be when the amount of boomers that actually leave market decreases to almost nothing. By this time Millenials should be in the job market.
Both admin’s or parties are taking the credit.
Was it better than 2009?
No one will know for years how much everything has changed.
Just like how the job reports have seemed positive for many years. The Obama, Trump, or the Market is not taking the fact that over 200,000 baby boomers retire each month. If the new job reports doesn’t pass the 200,000 new jobs it is not an increase.
Each admin has taken responsibility for the increase of new jobs. Not only are they not taking into account of the actual jobs created, but they are not taking the fact millennials are entering the job market at a later age.
This is why we won’t know the real numbers for years. It will probably be when the amount of boomers that actually leave market decreases to almost nothing. By this time Millenials should be in the job market.
Both admin’s or parties are taking the credit.
This post was edited on 11/22/18 at 10:31 am
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:31 am to MizzouBS
The economy struggles for 8 yrs with 0% interest rates...and then explodes when Obama leaves office....and he takes credit.
fricking clown.
fricking clown.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:09 am to SquatchDawg
Not saying or believe otherwise. We will know the real results when we look back at it in the future.
How do you feel about Clintons and Newts economy or was it because of Reagan and HW policies? I feel like it was mainly the help of Newt that helped Clintons economy.
When people look back at Andrew Jackson’s economy it was great at the time. When he left office it caused the largest recession/depression until the Great Depression.
Only time will tell how Trumps economy has actually helped. The long term effect is more important than the short term
How do you feel about Clintons and Newts economy or was it because of Reagan and HW policies? I feel like it was mainly the help of Newt that helped Clintons economy.
When people look back at Andrew Jackson’s economy it was great at the time. When he left office it caused the largest recession/depression until the Great Depression.
Only time will tell how Trumps economy has actually helped. The long term effect is more important than the short term
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:35 pm to KeyserSoze999
The economy was dog shot when Obama got it from Bush, and hot when Trump took over. Fact is, more jobs were created in 2016 under Obama than Trump in 2017. The trump Republican tax cut juiced the economy and credit is due. But the narrative that Trump inherited a bad economy is false.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:51 pm to Geauxst Writer
Yes Obama inherited a bad economy. He also didn’t really do shite to improve it.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 1:54 pm to KeyserSoze999
Trump and Republican have passed no economic bills, except a tax cut that put us 2 trillion more in debt...this economy belongs to Obama!!! Mitch and his I'll now want to cut social security and Medicare to make up the 2 trillion... Pay attention.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 3:30 pm to Gordon23
quote:
cut social security
Go for it. One less welfare program for the financially illiterate costing us responsible people money every 2 weeks.
This post was edited on 11/22/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:32 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:prove it pansy
none of that is "evident" in the articles
quote:link?
most of them are just stories covering a single revision
quote:you tell me genius
how many of them even allege a systematic pattern of revisions in the agencies? how many of those allege that this pattern of revision was intentional? how many of those allege that this intention was to shape perception of obama?
quote:still wrong
these were your allegations.
quote:
that isn't the same thing at all
of course it is. you don't even understand the issue. that's why you are unable to formulate an intelligent response. quote:prove it pansy
they fail to support you
quote:so - "i need for you to repeat what's in the articles."
you're too lazy/scared to clarify exactly how they do.
quote:then what was the purpose of the authors writing them?
they fail to support or argue for a consistent pattern that is different from the whole
quote:it's not my argument genius. i was quoting them nearly verbatim. and if you are saying they aren't wrong, then they DO establish an intentional pattern that obama tried to use for manufactured success
i didn't say they are "wrong". i said they fail to support your argument.
quote:
you asserted that the dynamics of both the labor force participation rate and net job loss had turned around in this very thread
even wapo admits this has turned around. conservative sources say it is soaring compared to the previous admin. i don't understand what your point is quote:see, this is a perfect example of how you are a arse. i am going to have to explain this to your infantile mind which is a waste of time.
and right here, you responded to bmy's claim that was explicitly about real wages with 5 blind links, every single one of which talks about nominal wages!
the thread topic was about how the economy as a whole was improving under the trump administration. here's the key - due to his policies. iow, things that are under his control.
bmy tried to throw cold water on the conversation by bringing up the "real wage" issue (which he was wrong about btw. the real wage isn't dropping which you would know if you actually read the articles i linked.) pay attention, i responded to bmy by acknowledging the cost of living issue, which is beyond trump's control, you know, the point of the op. so i'm trying to keep bmy on the subject. trump can have a direct impact on wages through things like the tax breaks. trump cannot directly control cost of living. it is complicated involving many variables that are beyond the prez's control. the articles i linked substantiate my point and are relevant to the op. i hope that explains it to you in a way you can understand. your juvenile response is stupid.
it's astonishing but you are somehow keeping up with ib for worst poster on the pb. i guess both of you have asperger's. texridder is making a case for close 2nd. the three of you are something else.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:36 pm to bfniii
i've made this point before.
trump and obama took nearly opposite stances on regulations. under obama, the economy was tanking. under trump the economy took off.
if obama's policies work and trump's policies are opposite to obama's and trump is continuing to implement his policies, then the economy should be getting WORSE, not better.
explain that libs
trump and obama took nearly opposite stances on regulations. under obama, the economy was tanking. under trump the economy took off.
if obama's policies work and trump's policies are opposite to obama's and trump is continuing to implement his policies, then the economy should be getting WORSE, not better.
explain that libs
Posted on 11/23/18 at 1:27 am to Esquire
Idiot, social security and Medicare are not entitlements, there are paid for by working Americans when they enter into the working class.. idiot... There paychecks are deducted every period for this... Idiot...right now the government owes me hundreds of thousands of dollars due to those deductions... idiot... You must not work, or too stupid to understand how it works...lol..but, Trump dump has cost the taxpayer over 80 million dollars due to his golfing, fact! ..SO shut the fu*k up...idiot!
Posted on 11/23/18 at 1:32 am to bfniii
Fact. Obama's economy did better... Fact check please...this is Obama's economy.. repubs passed no economic bills, just a tax cut that increased the deficit by 2 trillion..fact..your boy Trump the list is a loser...!
Posted on 11/23/18 at 1:43 am to Gordon23
quote:
Idiot, social security and Medicare are not entitlements, there are paid for by working Americans when they enter into the working class.. idiot... There paychecks are deducted every period for this... Idiot...right now the government owes me hundreds of thousands of dollars due to those deductions... idiot... You must not work, or too stupid to understand how it works...lol..but, Trump dump has cost the taxpayer over 80 million dollars due to his golfing, fact! ..SO shut the fu*k up...idiot!
Do you have Tourette’s or are you 12?
SS is 100% an entitlement. Entitled Boomers just don’t want to admit it because they think they deserve the younger generations’ money just because they paid for the older ones. I’d opt out in a second and invest that money properly, but a bunch of old fricks living on the streets is bad PR.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 6:25 am to Gordon23
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your boy Trump the list is a loser...!
Lol
Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:06 pm to SDVTiger
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we hit rock bottom of course there was an "upswing"
Rock bottom was the second quarter of 2009. From then until now the economy has been growing. Both in jobs and GNP.
Posted on 11/24/18 at 5:16 am to KeyserSoze999
Absolutely. Look at the trends.
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:01 am to KeyserSoze999
It’s like these morons think we don’t remember their new normal horse shite.
Hell I do not believe the words “economic growth” have ever passed the lips of schumer or pelosi
Hell I do not believe the words “economic growth” have ever passed the lips of schumer or pelosi
Posted on 11/24/18 at 7:26 am to rich4pres
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Honestly, I doubt libs even believe it.
They have no 'beliefs' based on policy - all they have are narratives and hatred.
None of that require them to 'believe' any kind of principle. All they have to do is make up some sort of 'what if' bullshite and then spew hatred for any conservative.
Posted on 11/24/18 at 9:45 am to ohiovol
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It was when Obama inherited it.
I believe the Dems controlled both chambers of Congress during Bush's last two years did they not? So the blame lies bigly with them I'd say.
Posted on 11/24/18 at 9:51 am to BigAppleBucky
quote:
Rock bottom was the second quarter of 2009. From then until now the economy has been growing
No shite. So obviously I could have helped with an "upswing" if I was Prez
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