re: When a lesbian comes out of the closet; not what you're thinking tho

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A lot of conservatives would vote tomorrow to abolish the Dept of Education. That would be rapid and significant; are they no longer conservatives?

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Not at all.

That Department is only 40 years old, which is “new” on an historical scale. “Conservatives” opposed its formation and have continued to oppose its existence continuously since that time. Seeking its dissolution remains “conservative.”

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Not if the two consenting adults are siblings. And what’s so important about being an adult? If we’ve decided that a 14 year old can have an abortion, surely she can choose marriage. And what about people who want to marry multiple consenting females? Either you want no restrictions on marriage or you still want a “theocracy”; you just want the rules that you like.

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False choice. I want common sense rules that limit government involvement in personal morality (within limits). Wanna marry a second woman? Fine- just show proof you can support both and have the first wife sign off on splitting SS/pension benefits. Wanna marry your sister? Gross but ok. It’s important to be an adult so you can make an informed choice. Don’t be obtuse. You wanna protest the widespread choice to murder the unborn foisted on girls too young to understand the ramifications? I’ll be next to you. Just leave adults alone and treat them equally under the law if they’re not hurting you.

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That’s stupid.

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That’s what most people say when they like the values enforced by law and those laws are questioned. It’s when the values they DON’T favor are enforced that they start talking about “theocracies”.

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That’s what most people say when they like the values enforced by law and those laws are questioned. It’s when the values they DON’T favor are enforced that they start talking about “theocracies”.

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People talk about theocracies when personal religious beliefs are the SOLE basis for legislation that limits human choice

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No it's not, it's a joke

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It’s not a joke. It is very serious and a reality that you don’t either understand or want to acknowledge.

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No, they shouldn't.

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Yes they should. All people should repent of their sins, including you and me.

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You might want to keep it to yourself and stop telling other people what they should do, if you don't want to be seen as a fanatic.

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Call me what you want. Personal attacks aren’t a great way to argue.

That said, my religion requires me to tell people about their need for salvation through Jesus Christ. Without Him, people will be condemned for their sins. I don’t want that.

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I've been taught to respect other people's religious beliefs. But, it turns out, I don't actually have to respect belief in fairy tales. I also don't expect other people to respect my beliefs, so I generally keep them to myself.

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Clearly you hold to an arbitrary moral system. You need to submit yourself to the Lord before it is too late.

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Not the ones who don't believe in "sin".

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”for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God“ -Romans 3:23

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Where have I seen that before...?

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”Submit yourselves therefore to God.” -James 4:7a

“Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth” -Philippians 2:9-10

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I'm no Muslim. Keep your religion to yourself.

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Christ is Lord and King and everyone should submit to Him as such, even those misled by Islam.

It’s not my religion to keep to myself. It is the Faith once delivered (by God) to the saints (followers of Christ long ago) that is the very gift of God and the only means of justification and salvation. It would not only be disobedient to God for me to remain quiet, it would be cruel to let others think they are not in need of salvation through Jesus Christ and to let them perish in their sins.

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This is why I have no respect for you or your fairy tale religion. You seem to have ZERO respect for my beliefs, why should I respect yours?

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We see it as literally a (eternal) life or death situation. I respect you as a person enough to share the gospel message with you so that you would (hopefully) be saved. Respect of a wrong belief does nothing but potentially allow someone to die in their sins. Respect of a person provides a desire to want to see that person saved.

If I knew or even believed without a doubt that a road was out up ahead and that anyone who wasn't warned about it would go to their deaths, should I not try to warn people about that prospect? Or, should I respect their driving decisions and let them go to whatever fate awaits? No, it would be immoral for me to leave people alone simply to let them die if I knew or strongly believed they needed to turn away. Likewise, it would be wrong for me to not warn people to turn away from their current path that leads to their own destruction from a spiritual standpoint.

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Besides which, Christians are either being misled by the Devil, or they're just hypocrites.

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Christians are sinners like everyone else. It's why we need to continue to repent and seek the truth like everyone else.

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God said to remember the sabbath and to keep it holy - Christians seem to have forgotten the sabbath.

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I agree with you. It's a shame that so many professing Christians treat the Sabbath like it's just any other day to get chores done and that worshiping God is not actually a command and desire by God and a benefit to the Christian.

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God also told us not to put any name above His, or to make any likeness of him... Either that is an image of God, or Christians have put another name above God - Jesus.

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Again, I agree with you on this point, as well. We shouldn't make images of Jesus. We don't even know what He looked like in order to make an accurate representation of Him even if it were OK to do so from a theological point. Therefore whatever image is made is from the imagination of men. But yes, I also believe it's a violation of God's law.

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I suspect your devil has come along and tricked you into worshiping him in his bid to beat God at the Who Has More Souls game. Who else could convince Christians to put another name above God, make graven images of him and forget to keep the sabbath holy?

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Whether it is Satan or the sinfulness of our own hearts, sin exists within the Church. It's why we are supposed to examine ourselves and repent continually.

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You people need to sort your shite out before you go pushing it on the unsuspecting.

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While there are a lot of things that Christians disagree about, there are some essential aspects of the Faith that are absolutely necessary for someone to call themselves a Christian, and the gospel message is one of those things. We are still supposed to share that message of our guilt before God and the offer of salvation through faith in Christ with those around us.

So therefore, repent of your sins just as I am to repent of mine, and believe in the lord Jesus Christ who is the only one who can save from the penalty our sins deserve.

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In short, as a fiscal conservative, I have issues with the costly stipulations placed on the local community from on high.

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For me it's simpler than that. Let each state apply their own taxes to their own schools and cut out the loan shark (DOE).

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