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re: What's Your Covid Jab Opinion?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:55 am to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:55 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Thanks for the thoughtful response. The problem with the "statistics" is their source. Every time I looked at the underlying studies, they assumed correlation was the same as causation.
Unfortunately, that's all we have so far. It will probably take 20 years to unwind it. I think it was worth a try. They just never should've mandated it, and they should have given guidance to not give it to children and healthy young adults.
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:59 am to IvoryBillMatt
I took the first two, didn't get Covid. I took the third one when Delta was spreading. I got Covid but it was pretty light.
I haven't had one since. I got Covid a year later and it was not fun but thankfully Paxlovid did the trick. That stuff works.
I think the first three rounds of vaccines helped fight Covid but as this thing mutates, the vaccines are not that effective.
Then there are the problems with the covid vaccines for younger people, etc
Our state health department put out a lot of information during the pandemic. While we had a huge surge in Delta, they published charts that showed the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated . Under Delta, there was a huge difference. There were much fewer vaccinated deaths and hospitalizations.
Of course, I don't think anyone should be forced to take the vaccine and lockdowns were stupid.
I haven't had one since. I got Covid a year later and it was not fun but thankfully Paxlovid did the trick. That stuff works.
I think the first three rounds of vaccines helped fight Covid but as this thing mutates, the vaccines are not that effective.
Then there are the problems with the covid vaccines for younger people, etc
Our state health department put out a lot of information during the pandemic. While we had a huge surge in Delta, they published charts that showed the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated . Under Delta, there was a huge difference. There were much fewer vaccinated deaths and hospitalizations.
Of course, I don't think anyone should be forced to take the vaccine and lockdowns were stupid.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:23 am to theliontamer
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think the vaccine was essentially a flu shot that had minor effects on anything.
Yeah, it is definitely not essentially a flu shot. That’s what my dumbass thought it was when I got it back in March 2021. No, it was an experimental mRNA gene therapy. Much much different from the flu shot.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:24 am to L1C4
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What year is it?
Oh frick off with this.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:25 am to IvoryBillMatt
It has risks and it doesn’t do shite anyways.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:36 am to prouddawg
Death jab for an absolutely non-existent virus. Whether you believe in the wet market or lab theory doesn't matter as long as you believe in the threat and the "treatment." If you believe in the virus at all, you were bullshited.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:37 am to IvoryBillMatt
Pure scam. Never got a covid shot and never will. Never had a flu shot either, more BS.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:42 am to IvoryBillMatt
Was wrong about them, and the Pfizer one that I received is most likely the cause of chronic pericarditis that I have to battle every so often. It really sucks.
On the other hand, the only reason that I am not furious about that is that the CT that was performed during my first flare of pericarditis incidentally caught kidney cancer, which certainly saved my life.
On the other hand, the only reason that I am not furious about that is that the CT that was performed during my first flare of pericarditis incidentally caught kidney cancer, which certainly saved my life.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:50 am to TSmith
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the Pfizer one that I received is most likely the cause of chronic pericarditis that I have to battle every so often. It really sucks.
Sorry to hear about your difficulties...but happy about your mixed blessing.
If you don't mind, did your physician express an opinion as to the cause of your chronic pericarditis?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:59 am to IvoryBillMatt
I believe the boosters do more harm on those under 50 than good.
Just my random thought. I would ask my grown children not to do boosters.
Just my random thought. I would ask my grown children not to do boosters.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:07 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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If you don't mind, did your physician express an opinion as to the cause of your chronic pericarditis?
The specialist that I am seeing says that it is difficult to know whether the virus itself caused it, or the vaccine.
They need to study this, as it should be pretty easy to compare populations. I'm sure it is being studied, however. I just don't think they have adequate data yet. But I'm convinced.
My first major flare of pericarditis was in November 2022, and my normal cardiologist mentioned at the time that neither he, nor any of his colleagues had ever seen anything close to the number of people with inflammatory heart conditions. They asked me at the time if I had taken the vaccine, and nurses would come into the hospital room and strongly hint at the correlation. But it somehow didn't find its way into the news at the time.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:23 pm to IvoryBillMatt
My hindsight take is that if you were older than 70 or obese the risk from the first iteration of Covid outweighed the risk of the vaccine. The Vaccine saved people in that category but of course never should have been mandated even for that group. Nobody who was young and in halfway decent shape had any business taking the vaccine at any point. Once Omnicron came out the vaccine had lost all usefulness. And frick right off concerning boosters.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:26 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:29 pm to TSmith
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My first major flare of pericarditis was in November 2022, and my normal cardiologist mentioned at the time that neither he, nor any of his colleagues had ever seen anything close to the number of people with inflammatory heart conditions. They asked me at the time if I had taken the vaccine, and nurses would come into the hospital room and strongly hint at the correlation. But it somehow didn't find its way into the news at the time.
Thank you. Seems like many situations that I have heard about.
Godspeed to you.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:35 pm to Bunk Moreland
What's the significance of that now, Bunk?
That we're supposed to fight Trump?
That we're supposed to fight Trump?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:48 pm to IvoryBillMatt
No, this is unpopular but I have seen it an have experience.
Take an "expert" like Fauci. When experts make statements as scientist, they have a hard, hard time walking it back because it becomes a social stance. Read Thomas Khune's nature of scientific revolution to understand this mindset in science. They look for reasons to be right as oppose to incorporating new knowledge and adjusting. Fauci was an rather obscure scientist before 2020, but he believed his work was of vital importance. Then he finally finds himself in a situation for the first time in his life where he had real power and was a star. He was going to say anything to keep that going, it feed his ego. He probably thought it would work because he believed it would work and he could not be wrong with all his years of experience. The gain-of function research is just an example. He knew better than those lawmakers that, just do not understand, he was right to do that. To this day, he probably believes everyone else is wrong and he will be vindicated.
Take an "expert" like Fauci. When experts make statements as scientist, they have a hard, hard time walking it back because it becomes a social stance. Read Thomas Khune's nature of scientific revolution to understand this mindset in science. They look for reasons to be right as oppose to incorporating new knowledge and adjusting. Fauci was an rather obscure scientist before 2020, but he believed his work was of vital importance. Then he finally finds himself in a situation for the first time in his life where he had real power and was a star. He was going to say anything to keep that going, it feed his ego. He probably thought it would work because he believed it would work and he could not be wrong with all his years of experience. The gain-of function research is just an example. He knew better than those lawmakers that, just do not understand, he was right to do that. To this day, he probably believes everyone else is wrong and he will be vindicated.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 3:51 pm to IvoryBillMatt
The only thing Trump has guilt for is that he trusted a corrupt scientist. His "experts" were telling him this vaccine would solve the problem. He did his duty as President; that is why the majority of Americans look to Fauci and Bricks as responsible and not Trump.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:26 pm to FreddieMac
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The only thing Trump has guilt for is that he trusted a corrupt scientist.
That's what I think as well. Personally, I would like to have heard Trump say that.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:30 pm to udtiger
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Get it or you lose your job and freedom, I don't like that.
It's fine if you wanted it to protect you. GO ahead.
However politicians will swear up and down there was no mandate and you didn't have to choose and that is categorically false.
I had just taken a new job and had to get the vax to comply or else the job would go away and I had no intention of getting it.
I got the Johnson and Johnson shot and havent felt right since October 2020 when i got that damn thing.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:49 pm to Lawyered
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got the Johnson and Johnson shot and havent felt right since October 2020 when i got that damn thing.
Sorry to hear that. Drug companies have immunity for the jabs. Employers who mandated it do not.
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