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re: What’s the off-ramp in Iran?

Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:16 am to
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:16 am to
Well, they can kind of get a bead on it based on strikes carried out against their stockpiles and launch sites vs how many ballistics are the Iranians launching at their neighbors. Since the bombing campaign has intensified Iran's ballistic missile launches has dropped 90%. They estimated that they had up to 3,000 ballistic missiles before this all began, but they have struck hundreds of their stockpiles.

They're running out of ballistics. Which leaves them still with huge numbers of short range missiles, but if we don't have troops over there what the frick are they going to use those for? For striking themselves?

The Iranians won't be able to fight much longer.
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:17 am to
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Revolution is not happening. The Islamic regime doesn’t look to be going anywhere, whether it’s Mojtaba or his eventual successor(s).
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side note - what’s the deal with the Iranian people? do they want regime change or not? if they miss this opportunity, then I never want to hear about liberating them ever again.


You might not be wrong on this front. People tend to be complacent in their current situations. Consider how badly we need to reform our federal government run amok but we refuse to do anything about it other than bitch and gripe when election time rolls around. Then we go to the polls and vote the same bastards right back into office so they can continue to run our nation into further debt an enact more laws that only appeal to the criminally insane.

We can't really expect the Iranians to suddenly rise up and assume control when they have no plan in place to do so.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28012 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:17 am to
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Revolution is not happening.


We're still hitting military installments and are telling the civilians to stay off the streets for now.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6571 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:18 am to
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They're running out of ballistics. Which leaves them still with huge numbers of short range missiles, but if we don't have troops over there what the frick are they going to use those for? For striking themselves?


That's an interesting point. For those that aren't up to date on short range missiles, what kind of range are we talking with those? Obviously, the ballistics have much further ranges but what are we talking about with the shorties?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:20 am to
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what’s the deal with the Iranian people? do they want regime change or not?


i would think they want to live...smart thing to do is to allow the US and Israel to take out more of the iran military...especially when out gunned. You think it would be smart to act now if you were them?
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6571 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:20 am to
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You might not be wrong on this front. People tend to be complacent in their current situations. Consider how badly we need to reform our federal government run amok but we refuse to do anything about it other than bitch and gripe when election time rolls around. Then we go to the polls and vote the same bastards right back into office so they can continue to run our nation into further debt an enact more laws that only appeal to the criminally insane.

We can't really expect the Iranians to suddenly rise up and assume control when they have no plan in place to do so.



I'm not sure they're the same equivalent here, the US and the Iranians. A much as we complain about our government, we aren't seeing the same degree of violations that the Iranians have been subjected to for decades. Maybe you're correct and it wouldn't matter but It seems like the Iranians hate the regime more than we hate out government, which is a bold statement.
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:21 am to
Not every single city in Iran is getting bombed continuously.

This is a country of 92 million.

Can you post one single sign of this Iran revolution standing by for the green light?

Even in a small city?

Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11539 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:21 am to
They would be unable to reach targets in Israel. 500-700kms or so. Some of their missile types can't even reach out that far.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 9:22 am
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
2330 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:22 am to
You’re right, the regime will not fall. The Iranian people cannot overthrow it because they don’t have the weapons. The regime is too entrenched and as long as they are willing to kill their own people, they aren’t going anywhere. Air power alone will not defeat the regime. It will take a huge ground force and no one wants that, so at some point when we are satisfied that we control the uranium we need to declare victory and get out. Unconditional surrender will never happen.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
6698 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:22 am to
Alinejad is an Iranian ex-pat that has been very critical of this regime. The Iranian government has tried to kill her a time or two since she has lived here. They even tried to kidnap her once. I don’t know too much about her but she is one tough as hell chick. I have watched a couple of interviews with her before. She cuts this regime absolutely no slack.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11539 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:23 am to
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Not every single city in Iran is getting bombed continuously.


They have no way of knowing when bombs are going to fall anywhere in the country. Again, they have been warned numerous times to shelter in place until the time is right. Stop being stupid.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2002 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:23 am to
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What’s the off-ramp in Iran?


Keep killing them until they get tired of dying. It’s what the patriots did to the British. It’s what the North did to the South. It’s what the allies did to the Germans and Japs in WW2.

It’s also what the allies did not do in WW1, and what the USA did not do in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16754 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:24 am to
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Revolution is not happening.




You sure about that? Right now the people are being told to stay inside. Arms are being brought in for the people and Kurds are preparing to start ground operations. America will provide air support for a time and then a civil war of retribution will take place.

We'll deal with what emerges from that.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130144 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:25 am to
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Revolution is not happening.


I wonder what the world would be like of Social Media existed during previous wars

Its been a week
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11539 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:25 am to
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Arms are being brought in for the people and Kurds are preparing to start ground operations.


This isn't happening. Trump scrapped the plan to send in the Kurds.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5884 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:26 am to
Iran is led by tyrannical fanatics who do not care about the welfare of their people. After we bomb them enough they will strike a deal to spare their people from more suffering.

That’s the off ramp.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6571 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:28 am to
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Not every single city in Iran is getting bombed continuously.

This is a country of 92 million.

Can you post one single sign of this Iran revolution standing by for the green light?

Even in a small city?


It's a fair question that I had to look up myself.


Tehran has obviously been hit the hardest and is far and away the most populous of the Iranian cities. Just the major cities alone that have been hit in Epic Fury have between 20-26 million residents. When you add the smaller and medium sized cities, the numbers come back that over 2/3 of Iran's population lives somewhere where at least one strike has occured. That's just the raw numbers. Then account for the fact that these people have been subjected to abuse from this regime for 40 years and it's not outlandish to think that they're

1) Waiting for the military that has abused them to be declared combat ineffective

&

2) They're also waiting for the bombing to be declared complete since so many of them live in places that have at least been struck a minimum of one time.






Also, in a hypothetical toppling of the US government, you'd imagine that would take place in a place like DC. At least I wouldn't imagine the revolution occuring in Lincoln, Nebraska for example. Maybe people are waiting for Tehran to not be a death trap.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 9:30 am
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2383 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:32 am to
Given the comments Rubio made about why we started the war when we did (Israel was going to attack) amd that Israel was concerned Trump was having negotiations for peace before Israel had completed its objectives - it seems that there is no chance of this ending until Israel gives us the okay to do so.

What, exactly, are Israel's objectives and how long till they achieve them is the real question


Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44746 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:32 am to
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Revolution is not happening.


If we’ve lost geauxEdO we’ve lost the war.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11539 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:35 am to
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What, exactly, are Israel's objectives and how long till they achieve them is the real question


Israel seems to have the same objectives we do. They are intending to completely neuter the Iranian military. As in completely.
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