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re: What's the best argument against an all out AR ban?
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:13 am to ShreveportHog94
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:13 am to ShreveportHog94
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Did I leave any out?
Yeah. The most significant one - Freedom is always the best starting point. Arguing against freedom, one must make an argument other than, "But they're ugly, scary-looking guns."
At least, IMHO.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:13 am to ShreveportHog94
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You saying we could have won the great one by arming all the Jews in Germany!?! Holy smokes, Batman. Lol keep them coming. 6 millions Jews would have still died had every last one of them owned a personal firearm. It literally had zero to do with that - signed every person with common sense.
You said you debunked the "myth" of Nazi gun laws stupid frick, you look sooooo dumb now.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:18 am to SlowFlowPro
Warsaw ghetto uprising is probably most common. Worth a look.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:19 am to Strannix
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You said you debunked the "myth" of Nazi gun laws stupid frick, you look sooooo dumb now.
I did. Keep up and maybe you'll learn something about history outside of what Ben Carson taught you lol.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:21 am to ShreveportHog94
You aren't teaching anyone anything, you obviously have a servere learning disability based on how this thread is going. ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:22 am to ShreveportHog94
frick you Come and take it wins my case every time
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:24 am to ShreveportHog94
Nobody is restricting my rights simply because it "feels good."
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:25 am to ShreveportHog94
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You saying we could have won the great one by arming all the Jews in Germany!?! Holy smokes, Batman. Lol keep them coming. 6 millions Jews would have still died had every last one of them owned a personal firearm. It literally had zero to do with that - signed every person with common sense.
Which obviously does not include you.
BTW you come across as retarded when you attempt to pass off opinion as fact.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:27 am to Crawdaddy
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Crawdaddy
I bet you have the best set of truck nuts on the block.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:32 am to ShreveportHog94
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no you cannot fire, reload or last as long with a pistol compared to an AR variant weapon.
The frick?? Have you actually ever fired a weapon?? I carry a Glock 17C and when I go shooting with my buddy's they tend to be slightly taken back at how fast I burn through a mag. But regardless a semi-auto is a semi-auto and the rate of fire is determined by the skill level person using it..
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:34 am to Snipe
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BTW you come across as retarded when you attempt to pass off opinion as fact.
Well I wasn't there so there's bound to be some opinion. The fact that every historian who has every commented on the situation agrees doesn't hurt. You want to go on believing what Ben Carson told you then go right ahead. Doesn't hurt my feelings. In fact I prefer to know you're an idiot right off the bat rather than having to wait for you to out yourself.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:36 am to ShreveportHog94
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In fact I prefer to know you're an idiot right off the bat rather than having to wait for you to out yourself.
You proved you are an idiot when starting this thread.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:39 am to ShreveportHog94
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How many would have died had they both been carrying beretta 9mm's? Also it's well established that shooting had ended and the guy was leaving. Doesn't make the plumbers actions any less commendable but stop pushing a false narrative that he ended the carnage.
You people are some sick bastards.
The guy may have been heading to another church next.
At the very least, he was going to end up in a shoot out with cops.
It’s so perverted that the left is trying to diminish what this guy did because he is a white, Christian NRA instructor.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:41 am to ShreveportHog94
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I did. Keep up and maybe you'll learn something about history outside of what Ben Carson taught you lol.
Unless you are going to address the 1938 ban on Jews owning guns you should exit the thread, you are looking dumber by the second.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:49 am to ShreveportHog94
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How many would have died had they both been carrying beretta 9mm's?
Hmm, I don't know. How many people did the VTech shooter kill with pistols?
If I walked into a small church with a few pistols and the same amount of magazines, perhaps throw in a shotgun as well, what kind of carnage do you think I could inflict on a weaponless church congregation? I think I could rack up a very similar body count.
Just like Newtown. If you think having an AR makes a huge difference when firing into an unarmed mass of people from close range in an enclosed space, you aren't very familiar with firearms. It made a difference in Vegas, you could at least have an argument there, but the simple fact that it was used and is most frequently does not mean that it is dramatically more lethal than other weapons in these situations. It's obviously one of the most popular weapons platforms and offers tremendous versatility but if you ban the most popular weapons platforms their will simply be another that becomes the most popular and around and around we go until the target becomes full confiscation. That's the only place the argument ends.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:55 am to ChewyDante
Dunblane school massacre
Armed only with pistols.
17 killed 15 wounded.
Cumbria shootings
Armed with shotgun and bolt action .22 rifle.
12 killed 11 wounded.
Armed only with pistols.
17 killed 15 wounded.
Cumbria shootings
Armed with shotgun and bolt action .22 rifle.
12 killed 11 wounded.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:58 am to Mike da Tigah
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They are responsible for more shooting deaths... wait, no. That’s not it
Team Glock raises a hand.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:07 am to FT
quote:Right. Because owning an AR-15 is equivalent to owning a nuclear weapon. Sure.
What are the limits of the second amendment?
Really?
Go buy a nuclear weapon at the gun store.
There is precedent for making various weapons off limits.
15kT nuke = AR-15. Sure.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:08 am to Ace Midnight
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Freedom is always the best starting point
Freedom from being shot dead in a church pew?
Because that's a pretty important freedom you're conveniently forgetting.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:08 am to Taxing Authority
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Because owning an AR-15 is equivalent to owning a nuclear weapon.
Which killed more people in the US in the last 50 years?
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