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re: What’s a turn the other cheek Christian to do when mobs invade their churches?

Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:46 am to
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:46 am to
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Old testament God was violent. New testament God was not.


He's either the same God, or we're all wasting our time.
Posted by civilag08
Member since Feb 2011
847 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:50 am to
There are lot of great responses in this thread. Our church has armed security and many also concealed carry as well.

When there are not dangerous mobs around, however, it is more important to get trained to use the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. My hope is that more people (myself included) will mature further in Christ and get to know the Word on a deeper level, not just to save the lost, but to feed the sheep to teach and learn as the Bereans.

Posted by themunch
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:56 am to
Jesus wanted no conflict on his behalf at that most important time. Jesus knew of his fulfilling of the Salvation was imminent and did not want Peter to interfere with that.


Jesus even showed those arresting him who HE is. Right there for them to see.

This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 11:58 am
Posted by CHP
Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:01 pm to
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What is a christian to do


Aim for their head ....
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:02 pm to
so this happened once.
what were they shouting?

now you project fear it will be a thing.

did you know that right wingers are fearful and thus so easily manipulated?

your thread is propaganda.

be skeered. be very skeered.

Posted by OSqueal
Member since Jan 2011
5982 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:04 pm to
Beat the shite out of them then ask for forgiveness.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Old testament God was violent. New testament God was not.


false. He's the same throughout. He showed tons of grace and mercy in the "old testament" and plenty of wrath in the New
Posted by LetTheTigerOut
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:07 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13053 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:07 pm to
I think ‘turn the other cheek’ may have meant ‘let evil be exposed for what it is’, which isn’t the same as ‘turn the other cheek and let evil destroy you’.

Instead, ‘let evil expose itself and so it may be righteously defeated’...
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:08 pm to
turn the other cheek does not mean NO SELF DEFENSE STICKING UR HEAD UP UR arse and be a martyr. read scripture. self defense is allowed. GEEz
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:10 pm to
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Turning the other cheek does not mean laying down like a whipped dog.



right when jesus told peter to put away the sword in the garden of gethsemane it was because it twas not the time nor place and he knew his fate and destiny.

some cannot read or interpret scripture. self defense is allowed.
Posted by civilag08
Member since Feb 2011
847 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:15 pm to
I just wanted to add one thing.

Some people who see God as being a different person in the old versus the new may not be think about the greatest work of all time, Jesus's work on the cross.

The wrath of God was poured out upon Jesus on the cross for our sins.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:15 pm to
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He's either the same God, or we're all wasting our time.


What’s he said isn’t correct. We are in a period of Grace where God is holding back his wrath. But if he thinks God’s wrath isn’t coming back, he hasn’t read the last book of the New Testament.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:17 pm to
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now you project fear it will be a thing.


Right, because BLM is taking their lead from my TD threads!!
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16773 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:19 pm to
Mississippi has a law called the Church Protection Act, that if memory serves, absolves church goers that use deadly force of criminal and civil liability of the use deadly force to protect the life or limb of others in the church.

It was laughed at when passed, not so much now.

Disrupting a church service doesn’t warrant deadly force. Threatening church members might, circumstances dependent.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:21 pm to
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turn the other cheek does not mean NO SELF DEFENSE STICKING UR HEAD UP UR arse and be a martyr. read scripture. self defense is allowed. GEEz


Someone didn’t read all my posts.


TD
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127390 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:24 pm to
Correct.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

Mississippi has a law called the Church Protection Act, that if memory serves, absolves church goers that use deadly force of criminal and civil liability of the use deadly force to protect the life or limb of others in the church.


All states should have this law.
Posted by BigSalmon
Member since Jul 2019
576 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 1:04 pm to
Kill them.
Posted by Bayoubred
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2011
4151 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 1:06 pm to
The situation in NY does not apply to the "turn the other cheek" Scripture. That passage is an example of personal conflict between two individuals. It teaches us to swallow our pride and hold our anger. What happened in NY at the Baptist Church was, first, a transgression and blasphemy against the House of God. Secondly, it was an extremely dangerous situation for the elderly, women and children at a minimum. It's my job to protect the innocent. I will do that.
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