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re: “Whatever It Takes......By Any Means Necessary”
Posted on 5/25/20 at 12:22 pm to wutangfinancial
Posted on 5/25/20 at 12:22 pm to wutangfinancial
quote:I know you are grossly ignorant of reality. These marxists have been working these plans for many decades. They didn't put all that effort into bc it doesn't work. wake up.
I think you are grossly overvaluing the media's influence on the average person
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 12:24 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:Correct.
What makes you think people on this forum are the average Americans? We are not average, we seek and pay attention to a lot of different news outlets and their methods of messaging. The average American is getting their opinions formed by the DimMedia, Hollywood/pop culture and academia.......all sources for Prog/Dim leftist propaganda.
I challenge any lefty here, who isn't just some tribal partisan soldier with an agenda (which is going to be most of them), but actually has an inkling of moral fortitude and curiosity, to go watch guys like Jimmy Dore, Tim Poole, Dave Rubin, Blaire White, either of the Weinstein brothers, Joe Rogan, Sam Harris, and Jordan Peterson.
People who are/were/mostly still are left-of-center classic liberals (and even a couple devout progressives), who have had their eyes opened about the craziness that's happened/happening on the left, and how they all acknowledge the bubble and delusional echo-chamber the left lives in.
These are all people with mountains of anecdotal evidence that the left has gone insane because they are so overwhelmingly close-minded and get virtually no information from any sources outside their bubble, while the right is lightyears more informed, open-minded, and friendly to people on the left who step into their sphere to hear differences of opinion and sources of information.
I'm not asking leftists to go watch shite like Hannity or Alex Jones (even though he's actually right probably 75% of the time when he's not saying insane stupid shite). These are only a small portion of accredited leftists who appear to have stepped out of the echo-chamber and expanded their sources of information. And it's quite enlightening, and entertaining, watching how their verbiage evolved in the process. To the point they are beginning to openly speak out against the left. All while still staying true to their liberal and progressive beliefs.
Hopefully this will continue, but YouTube and other social media are beginning to take notice and have been slowly but surely demonitizing them and clearly trying to either silence them or whip them back into line.
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 5/25/20 at 12:27 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:
"I don't want justice, whatever that may be. I want a win, the removal of Donald Trump from office, and Mr. Biden is our best chance," he wrote.
"Suppose an investigation reveals damaging information concerning his relationship with Tara Reade or something else, and Mr. Biden loses the nomination to Senator Bernie Sanders or someone else with a minimal chance of defeating Mr. Trump. Should we really risk the possibility?"
Imagine if a conservative writer ( rare as they may be ) penned this letter about a Republican candidate for President. The media assault would be in full fury. There would be panel after panel of vapid talking heads waxing indignantly. The conservative voter base would be assailed for even getting the candidate to this point. The media are truly the enemies of the people.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 12:30 pm to Lsuismyfav
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Every day there are multiple threads about the MSM. I believe the ones thatabout MSM pay more attention to it than the group of people you all think it aims to control.
The one sided agitprop coming from the MSM Ministry of DNC Truth is not the free and diverse flow of information that is at the foundations of press freedom.
Thank DARPA and associates for Internet. The MSM is more like a gatekeeper without a fence every day.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 12:31 pm to TrueTiger
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I think you are grossly overvaluing the media's influence on the average person
I wish that were true.
But, when you see millions believing the 'fine people hoax', the 'collusion hoax', the 'rapist Judge Kavanaugh hoax', and several others,
I have no explanation other than the media still holds enormous sway over a vast numbers of people despite not being credible.
Wutang knows it’s true....it’s just hard to accept because its not going to be easy to salvage the MSM. I think the MSM is every bit as damaging to the country as the DC Swamp.....the MSM is actively fighting to coverup Swamp corruption, particularly if Dims and never Trumpers are involved.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 12:35 pm to Bass Tiger
TDS is real. They've lost the ability to critically think. They have an obsession and hatred for Trump, and most can't even give you facts about why they hate him.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 12:35 pm to mightyMick
quote:Because it's 1000x easier and more productive/lucrative to cheat and be dishonest than it is to be fair and honest.
Republicans/conservatives need a much larger media presence like the TV networks and nyt. I don't understand why this media presence doesn't exist. Even the one TV news channel with more of a conservative bent is fading left.
The path of least resistance is a foundational basis of Greed.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 12:50 pm to Auburn1968
quote:
The one sided agitprop coming from the MSM Ministry of DNC Truth is not the free and diverse flow of information that is at the foundations of press freedom.
Thank DARPA and associates for Internet. The MSM is more like a gatekeeper without a fence every day.
Stop
about it do something about it. There's enough people and money to start an outlet that represents what you consider truth and unbiased news. You all probably just all talk and only give to the candidates you support and the NRA. Do you give to the sites that report the unbiased new?Posted on 5/25/20 at 1:05 pm to TrueTiger
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But, when you see millions believing the 'fine people hoax', the 'collusion hoax', the 'rapist Judge Kavanaugh hoax', the Covington kids hoax, and several others,
Are you that naive? People didn't believe in those hoaxes lol they used them as leverage for political debate. 2/3 of people don't believe those narratives and it has no effect or influence on the other third that believe it. Usually finger pointing issues aren't really even relevant at all in how people are governed or how they think we should be. It's just leverage for power.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 1:22 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:
Wutang knows it’s true....it’s just hard to accept because its not going to be easy to salvage the MSM. I think the MSM is every bit as damaging to the country as the DC Swamp.....the MSM is actively fighting to coverup Swamp corruption, particularly if Dims and never Trumpers are involved.
The MSM is dying you moron.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 1:28 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:
"I don't want justice, whatever that may be. I want a win, the removal of Donald Trump from office, and Mr. Biden is our best chance," he wrote.
the Dem playcall sheet.
Despicable.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 1:31 pm to wutangfinancial
Liberal turned conservative David Mamet famously said:
“ In order to continue advancing their illogical arguments ... modern liberals have to pretend not to know things... “
... and there is evidence of the MametPrinciple even in this very thread ....
“ In order to continue advancing their illogical arguments ... modern liberals have to pretend not to know things... “
... and there is evidence of the MametPrinciple even in this very thread ....
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 5/25/20 at 1:32 pm to wutangfinancial
quote:
2/3 of people don't believe those narratives
1/3 is around 100 million to many.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 1:45 pm to TrueTiger
You're never going to have 100% consensus on any issue. You act as if it's driving the politics of the country that people disagree on single issues when that's patently false. You are a right wing elitist that thinks people who disagree with you politically cannot think for themselves.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 1:52 pm to Lsuismyfav
quote:
Stop about it do something about it. There's enough people and money to start an outlet that represents what you consider truth and unbiased news. You all probably just all talk and only give to the candidates you support and the NRA. Do you give to the sites that report the unbiased new?
Spectrum will not carry OAN, even if they paid, according to the owner.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 2:01 pm to Bass Tiger
Forced confiscation and redistribution of wealth has always been the goal, and they don’t care if it’s accomplished by votes or illegal means.
Marxism by hook or by crook.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 2:01 pm to wutangfinancial
quote:
I think you are grossly overvaluing the media's influence on the average person
The MSM's influence has been in decline. A couple of years ago its credibility was down in the low 30% range and still headed down. I'm sure the whole Trump/Russia hoax cost them a few more credibility points.
It is still estimated that the NY "National" News moves national voting by 10 to 20%. The effects are much less down the ballot.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 2:04 pm to Dead End
quote:It would not have mattered who won on the Right. The response from the Left would have been the same.
TDS is real.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 2:10 pm to Auburn1968
Isn't the trust in the media polling at an all time low? Nobody thinks any network is objective. The "muh Fox News" crowd is mostly pretty radical progressives that are willing to lie to your face to win a political argument. I think people opinions that most individuals are retarded morons who can't read is just not accurate.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 2:15 pm to wutangfinancial
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Isn't the trust in the media polling at an all time low? Nobody thinks any network is objective. The "muh Fox News" crowd is mostly pretty radical progressives that are willing to lie to your face to win a political argument. I think people opinions that most individuals are retarded morons who can't read is just not accurate.
Many in "fly-over country" still have a mind of their own. It's the people's republic bubbles that have given into group-think and act like hypnotized dancing chickens on a stage.
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