“Whatever It Takes......By Any Means Necessary”

Yeah, that is a Free Press is committed to the truth no matter where it takes them

I think you are grossly overvaluing the media's influence on the average person

A lot of us here are amazed at how the Dems walk in lockstep. There is no diverging opinion like there is with the GOP.
It reminds me of a fascinating comment by a prof I knew who studied the USSR.
He told me:
"When we want someone who is skeptical to believe us we say things like 'I swear to God' or 'If I'm lying I'm dying' or 'I swear on my mother's grave.' In the USSR it was 'I swear to you as a fellow member of the Party...' "

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I think you are grossly overvaluing the media's influence on the average pers

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I was listening to Glenn Beck this morning (which I rarely do) and he read a poll that said 53% of Americans today believe Trump was colluding with Russia in 2016 to effect the election in Trump’s favor.......where did these 53% of Americans get this notion? Hmmmm..

You also need to understand, some of these folks don't think (or know) they are lying and being dishonest.

Studies have been done, and they make perfect sense. People right-of-center get their information from a significantly broader spectrum of sources. Something like 40/60 left-to-right. While people left-of-center get their information from almost exclusively leftwing sources.

If all you ever hear is one side, of course you're going to believe nothing but that narrative, and that's the only information that's going to shape your beliefs and behaviors. And anytime you do hear something to the contrary, of course you're going to think it's a lie.

On top of this, they truly believe with every fiber of their being that they are righteous and morally superior, even when they do know they are being "less than perfectly honest".


Now don't get me wrong, this doesn't speak of the people who absolutely know they are full of shite partisan ideologues who lie on purpose to manipulate and sway the ignorant.

Which accounts for nearly every elected politician and media top brass.

There are also plenty of ideological lemmings/soldiers who simply follow orders, and know full well they are dishonest hacks. We have several on this site who do it on purpose because they believe they are fighting some war for tribal superiority.

And then there are those who are chemically imbalanced and suffering from extreme excessive empathy and guilt. And they are just a different breed and afflicted with a disease of emotions that control their beliefs and behaviors, and there's nothing we can do about those people.


But for the most part, the vast majority who are left-of-center are simply purposely misinformed victims of exploitation and manipulation. Whether it's the media, politicians, cultural bias/long-standing norms in their environment, or simply their parents and peers passing down ignorance, most of them just don't know any better.

That doesn't mean they aren't accountable for not doing research and expanding their sources of information. In fact I'd blame most of them for keeping themselves in this state out of sheer laziness and/or inability to critically think, be rational and reasonable, and consistently apply logic and common sense.

But, there are many factors that cause that, too, which the left has exploited to keep these people like this.


No doubt this is an uphill battle of epic proportions, and the left is good at what they do. Because it's easier to deceive, manipulate, and control people when you have zero problem being amoral and unethical.

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I think you are grossly overvaluing the media's influence on the average person

So true. I don’t know what CNN or MSM says unless I read it here. I might get stuck at the hotel lobby eating but I just tune it out or change their channel

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What makes you think people on this forum are the average Americans? We are not average, we seek and pay attention to a lot of different news outlets and their methods of messaging. The average American is getting their opinions formed by the DimMedia, Hollywood/pop culture and academia.......all sources for Prog/Dim leftist propaganda.

Every day there are multiple threads about the MSM. I believe the ones that :wah: about MSM pay more attention to it than the group of people you all think it aims to control.

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Every day there are multiple threads about the MSM. I believe the ones that about MSM pay more attention to it than the group of people you all think it aims to control.

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^ Stockholm syndrome

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I think you are grossly overvaluing the media's influence on the average person

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The political language of 2020 is written at an 8th grade level so the average American will digest it. The very average American is absolutely absorbing massive amounts of false truth.