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Posted on 6/19/22 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24939 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 7:55 pm to
How about an amendment to start enforcing and abiding by the constitution?
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7861 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 7:56 pm to
1. Repeal of the 17th Amendment
2. True separation of powers between the three Branches of government
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 7:57 pm to
Repeal the 17th
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:40 pm to
Ideas of this sort from the Texas Republican Convention - some are in order for this thread

Their new platform would call for:

1.Requiring Texas students “to learn about the humanity of the preborn child,” including teaching that life begins at fertilization and requiring students to listen to live ultrasounds of gestating fetuses.

2. Amending the Texas Constitution to remove the Legislature’s power “to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.”

3. Treating homosexuality as “an abnormal lifestyle choice,” language that was not included in the 2018 or 2020 party platforms.

4. Deeming gender identity disorder “a genuine and extremely rare mental health condition,” requiring official documents to adhere to “biological gender,” and allowing civil penalties and monetary compensation to “de-transitioners” who have received gender-affirming surgery, which the platform calls a form of medical malpractice.

5. Changing the U.S. Constitution to cement the number of Supreme Court justices at nine and repeal the 16th Amendment of 1913, which created the federal income tax.

6. Ensuring “freedom to travel” by opposing Biden’s Clean Energy Plan and “California-style, anti-driver policies,” including efforts to turn traffic lanes over for use by pedestrians, cyclists and mass transit.

7. Declaring “all businesses and jobs as essential and a fundamental right,” a response to COVID-19 mandates by Texas cities that required customers to wear masks and limited business hours.

8. Abolishing the Federal Reserve, the nation’s central bank, and guaranteeing the right to use alternatives to cash, including cryptocurrencies.

Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34194 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:00 pm to
I would want it made so that all legislative bills must be single item only. No more 1000 page novels full of pork that no one can possibly read
Posted by mr bojangles
Member since Apr 2009
359 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:17 pm to
The Constitution must explicitly forbid delegating of legislative and judicial powers not set forth in it's text. We have to shrink the administrative agency power, as it allows unelected buerocrats to create and adjudicate laws that reduce liberty more than any other facet of American life. Woodrow Wilson is to blame for this gross expansion of federal power.

A president has the power to abolish an agency - we just need one with the balls to do it.
This post was edited on 6/19/22 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
55700 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:41 pm to
1. Term limits for all members of Congress. No member of Congress shall serve for more than twelve years total (whether in either chamber or both).

2. Repeal the 14th Amendment and replace it with one which outlines "a natural born citizen" as one born of at least one parent who was an American citizen at the time of their child's birth.

3. The federal budget shall be balanced every year there is not an active, legally declared war on another country. Any debt incurred due to war shall be discharged within twenty years of the end of the war.

4. Civil assets may not be forfeited without a guilty verdict from a legal trial.

5. The federal government shall not force citizens to participate in, nor fund any social welfare program. This includes, but is not limited to Social Security and Medicare.

6. The federal government shall not own, hold nor in any way possess more than 5% of total property in any state.

7. Questions of Constitutionality shall be heard by the Supreme Court within 60 days of filing.

8. Members of Congress shall be provided with government-paid dormitory housing not to exceed a total of 1,800 square feet. When Congress is not in session they shall not be in residence in Congressional housing but must be in their home state or district.

9. Senators shall be elected by state legislatures. Any Senate seat vacant for more than 90 days shall be appointed by the Governor.

10. The federal government shall not control the education system in any way. The federal government shall act only as a passthrough for school funding.

11. No elected members of the federal government may trade stocks, nor have their stocks traded, as long as they hold office. All stocks must be placed into a blind trust when they take office and be left there until they no longer hold office.

12. There shall be no federal income tax, only a federal sales tax of 22% and it shall never be raised above that point.

13. A charge of "Lying While In Office" shall be defined as an elected official writing or stating a lie while in committee, on the floor of either chamber, speaking from the Oval Office or in an official press conference. A "Lie" shall be defined as a "known falsehood". If a charge of "Lying While In Office" is levelled, it must appear before the Supreme Court within 10 business days. Any official found to have made a false claim or one found guilty shall be immediately stripped of their office and forever be ineligible of holding any federal job nor working for any company with a federal contract.

14. No elected member of the federal government shall be beholden to their political party nor shall any political party be allowed to pressure, coerce nor force in any way any elected member of the federal government into supporting any other person.

15. The salaries for members of Congress shall be determined by the average US wage of all full-time workers.

16. No elected federal official (former or current) shall ever hold a position lobbying current federal elected officials.

17. The Supreme Court shall never have more than nine members.

18. No piece of legislation shall be more than 50 pages in 12-point, single-spaced, New Times Roman font.



I think that's a solid start.
This post was edited on 6/19/22 at 9:43 pm
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
13876 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:48 pm to
The founders had to right the first time - only landowners should be allowed to vote. You want to vote - own some land have skin in the game.

Democracy needs to die - we are a republic - I don’t want to live somewhere the majority of people get a say. The majority of people are idiots and morons.

Do you really want these people voting?

LINK yt
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
Member since Oct 2020
3900 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:55 pm to
term Limits, 12 years in House MAX, 24 year total between House and Senate. The House needs to have regular turnover. The Senate does need people who understand law ... like Mike Lee (whether you like him or not he knows how bills should be written or not ... with detail that does not give more authority to federal agencies).

SC Justice 25 years, or age 80, which ever comes first.

Let the People vote for the Vice President ... how many bad choices do we have too watch? Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Dick Cheney, Al Gore, Dan Quayle.

Did you post on Toomers before coming here? If so, what was your sig?
This post was edited on 6/19/22 at 9:59 pm
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

The founders had to right the first time - only landowners should be allowed to vote. You want to vote - own some land have skin in the game.


So hypothetically you’re aged and decide to sell or deed over your house and go live in a rental, you lose your right to vote? Even if you’ve paid property taxes for 4 or 5 decades?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108292 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:07 pm to
Repeal 17th and require state legislatures to elect Senators (and they cannot delegate it to popular vote).

Repeal 16th and establish a national sales tax of 20%.

No FICA
No Medicare tax
No income tax

Eliminate the following departments:

Energy
Education
Homeland Security
Labor
HUD

Repeal Title VII and Title IX

All tax legislation will require a 2/3 vote of both houses and shall have a 5 year sunset and cannot be renewed without a 2/3 vote of both houses. If the country is in a DECLARED WAR taxes can be passed by simple majority, subject to same sunset period.

Term limits

Establish mechanism for states to withdraw from the union.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
77055 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:11 pm to
quote:


So hypothetically you’re aged and decide to sell or deed over your house and go live in a rental, you lose your right to vote? Even if you’ve paid property taxes for 4 or 5 decades?


You could just start a property owner club, get a 100 people to an undivided lot.

Each person would own 1/100th. Very cheap but it would legally make them all landowners
Posted by Zachary
Member since Jan 2007
1770 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:16 pm to
Severely limit the taxing power of the federal government. Too much money flows through that corrupt place.

Reign in Chevron deference. Too many unelected administrative people making rules.

Reign in executive orders for the same reason.

Prohibit Congress from exempting itself from any laws that apply to the rest of us (e.g., Obamacare).
This post was edited on 6/19/22 at 10:20 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

Reign in Chevron deference.
Reign in executive orders
This post was edited on 6/19/22 at 10:25 pm
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19969 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:28 pm to
Term Limits

Outlaw lobbying and return government to the people.

Balance budget

States rights to states

Protect Supreme Court from packing.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
157506 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:33 pm to
first. take a true census/poll that shows maybe 3 States want communism and Biden or any establishment in DC.

then break away and let them go broke. they cannot ask to use our military or police.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
13876 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:42 pm to
You could grandfather people in - if they have owned land for 35 years or something then they would keep their vote.

The point is we have to increase the level of voters in this country. Most people are stupid as hell
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8783 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

then add that federal law could never trump state law especially as for as elections go

It's a great idea but no way the swamp is gonna give up that power.
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
Member since Oct 2020
3900 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 11:15 pm to
This would result in DC insiders writing every bill. That would be even worse than now.

"1) term limits.
2 terms house - 4 years
1 term senate - 6 years "
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
49032 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 11:29 pm to
I would clarify that a natural born citizen requires at least one parent that was already a legal citizen of the USA when born.
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