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re: What would the founding fathers think about 'national emergencies'?
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:39 am to BayouBlitz
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:39 am to BayouBlitz
Why do the Democrats hate the Constitution and apparently have done so since 1976?
DO they write these bills thinking they can be switched on for Democrat presidents and switched off for Republicans?
DO they write these bills thinking they can be switched on for Democrat presidents and switched off for Republicans?
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:39 am to Gr8t8s
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I think that this would be close to the bottom of their worries. I'd say they'd begin with things like: 1. Income tax 2. Forced healthcare 3. entitlements 4. MIC 5. loss of freedoms etc......but yeah, let's focus on what they would say about a national emergency
Hamilton would have loved an income tax as would Adams
Adams would love to pass an Emergency Declaration to throw non-natives American citizens out of the country!
Alien and Sedition acts anyone?
The Alien and Sedition Acts were four laws passed by the Federalist-dominated 5th United States Congress and signed into law by President John Adams in 1798. They made it harder for an immigrant to become a citizen, allowed the president to imprison and deport non-citizens who were deemed dangerous or who were from a hostile nation,
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 10:45 am
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:42 am to BayouBlitz
Blitz, it’s quite narcissistic of you to think that my sleep patterns have anything to do with responding to a post by you on a message board. I sleep fine . I’m sure you do too.
Second, it is not a deflection to point out that for years you have been a cheerleader for every post-Constitutional/extra-Constitutional measure proposed by every Democrat ever. And now you want us to believe you found Jesus and we aren’t buying it and we are scoffing at your Strange New Respect for Constitutionalism.
Second, it is not a deflection to point out that for years you have been a cheerleader for every post-Constitutional/extra-Constitutional measure proposed by every Democrat ever. And now you want us to believe you found Jesus and we aren’t buying it and we are scoffing at your Strange New Respect for Constitutionalism.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:43 am to SabiDojo
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Thomas Jefferson would probably approve
Adams not Jefferson.
Jefferson would want to revolt. Not over the ED but just because he came to believe that NO Generation had the Right to pass laws that could be imposed upon another generation.
Jefferson in his latter years preferred anarchy.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:44 am to BayouBlitz
They would probably understand that at times, emergency situations exist when congress is not in session. However, when congress is in session and actively addressing the exact same issue, they would probably see it as a gross abuse.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:46 am to BayouBlitz
Better question is what would the founding fathers think about the immigrants we at letting into this country they created?
Would they see the long term issue of slavery
and ban it then? How would such a stance have changed the demographics of what we now call America if there were no African slaves brought over? Hmmm
Would they also ban the Mexicans and other peoples from down south? Hmmm...i think so.
So if you are thinking of hanging your hat on “What would the founding fathers do”, I’d check my self. Those cats were all European whites and i can assure you they weren’t into equal rights for Browns here in America.
THEY WOULD BE APALLED AT AMERICA LOOKS LIKE TODAY!
APPALLED!
My bet is not how you think.
I would bet that if you brought them to 2019, they would freak the fu ck out and hurry back to their time to change the language of constitution so it’s intent could not be bastardized into what it has become.
Would they see the long term issue of slavery
and ban it then? How would such a stance have changed the demographics of what we now call America if there were no African slaves brought over? Hmmm
Would they also ban the Mexicans and other peoples from down south? Hmmm...i think so.
So if you are thinking of hanging your hat on “What would the founding fathers do”, I’d check my self. Those cats were all European whites and i can assure you they weren’t into equal rights for Browns here in America.
THEY WOULD BE APALLED AT AMERICA LOOKS LIKE TODAY!
APPALLED!
My bet is not how you think.
I would bet that if you brought them to 2019, they would freak the fu ck out and hurry back to their time to change the language of constitution so it’s intent could not be bastardized into what it has become.
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 10:53 am
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:47 am to gthog61
quote:The NEA was bipartisan legislation to address the consensus view that presidents were exceeding their authority.
They would probably laugh at the Democrats for complete lack of forethought resulting in them shooting themselves in the foot again.
National Emergencies Act enacted Sept 14,1976
Senate breakdown 61 D 37 R 2 other
House breakdown 291 D 144 R
It passed the House at 388:5, was slightly amended in the Senate and then approved by both chambers on voice vote.
Its over-use since that time (by presidents of both parties) is a classic example of the Law of Unintended Consequences.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:48 am to BayouBlitz
What would they think about people vehemently opposing protecting the country’s sovereign border?
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:50 am to Loserman
quote:I love Jefferson in general, but he WAS also the guy who bought Louisiana without Congressional approval.quote:Adams not Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson would probably approve
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:50 am to BayouBlitz
It amazes me how no-one knows American History!
Do they not teach it anymore?
Do people not read the Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist papers?
Do people not read about the compromises that took place in drafting the US Constitution?
What amazes me the most is the US wound up with a great foundational document in spite of it's flaws and especially in spite of the men who drafted it!
Do they not teach it anymore?
Do people not read the Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist papers?
Do people not read about the compromises that took place in drafting the US Constitution?
What amazes me the most is the US wound up with a great foundational document in spite of it's flaws and especially in spite of the men who drafted it!
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:53 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:What they wrote was mostly just fine. Many of them would be appalled at the Civil War Amendments and the way they destroyed the sovereignty of the States.
I would bet that if you brought them to 2019, they would freak the fu ck out and hurry back to their time to change the language of constitution so it’s intent could not be bastardized into what it has become.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:53 am to BayouBlitz
They would be disappointed that Congress gives away their power so easily.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:55 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Thomas Jefferson would probably approve
quote:
Adams not Jefferson.
quote:
I love Jefferson in general, but he WAS also the guy who bought Louisiana without Congressional approval.
You will learn to both love and hate him more if you will spend the time to read his writings and about his actual actions instead of reading US history text books.
Jefferson was a very contradictory man in thoughts and deeds
He constantly contradicted himself. He may be the first great flip-flopper politician!
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:56 am to AggieHank86
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What they wrote was mostly just fine. Many of them would be appalled at the Civil War Amendments and the way they destroyed the sovereignty of the States.
Yeah it’s mostly fine.
But i don’t think they would be into the “browning” of America. I would bet if they knew back then what would occur now they would have banned slavery-importing of blacks- banned Mexicans and other brown ethnic groups.
These dudes were from aristocratic white Europe. Ain’t no way they were down with the Browns and blacks.
Some would argue...well ill just keep my opinion to myself.
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 11:01 am
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:57 am to BayouBlitz
They would be upset at the amount of whiny bitches we have in this country now.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:59 am to BayouBlitz
Probably similar to EOs.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:00 am to BayouBlitz
quote:They think Congress, which ceded its power away to the Executive Branch, must be comprised of pansy fools.
What would the founding fathers think about 'national emergencies'?
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:01 am to BayouBlitz
What would they have thought when the big eared, bandy legged fraud you worship did it?
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:02 am to BayouBlitz
Washington would March an army against the citizens of his own country to enforce taxes on Whiskey.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:03 am to scottfruget
Lincoln would March an army into the south to stop the emergency of secession
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