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re: What would the founding fathers think about 'national emergencies'?
Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:09 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:09 pm to Covingtontiger77
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When they said “all men are created equally,” i assure they were not talking about those with a permanent tan- they fricked up with their verbiage and I would argue if they knew then what is going on now they would have taken appropriate steps to clean up the language that they used so as not to have it stretched beyond what they really meant.
American History scholar, I see.
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:10 pm to BayouBlitz
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What would the founding fathers think about 'national emergencies'?
They were too busy debating legal abortions back then to worry about our borders.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:11 pm to SabiDojo
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Jefferson was a man who wrote one way and acted another. He is one of the biggest hypocrites in American history.
Nonsense
Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:15 pm to BayouBlitz
They absolutely love Trump if they saw what Democrats have done to our country. They would have added an amendment that once a decade make the walls 1’ higher.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:15 pm to BayouBlitz
Waiiiit……...I thought all of the founding fathers were racist slaveowners. And now, you care about their opinions?
I call BS.
I call BS.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:39 pm to BayouBlitz
Horrified.
Anyone who can’t see that is lying to themself or doesn’t understand anything at all about what America is about.
Most of our constitution is about limiting power of the federal govt and any branch or it, especially the executive.
You may like the idea of trump subverting the democratic process in the name of revenge or expediency, but no real conservative can like this in principal.
Anyone who can’t see that is lying to themself or doesn’t understand anything at all about what America is about.
Most of our constitution is about limiting power of the federal govt and any branch or it, especially the executive.
You may like the idea of trump subverting the democratic process in the name of revenge or expediency, but no real conservative can like this in principal.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:54 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Jefferson was a complex man. It is part of what makes him so interesting.quote:Nonsense
Jefferson was a man who wrote one way and acted another. He is one of the biggest hypocrites in American history.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:55 pm to AggieHank86
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Jefferson was a complex man. It is part of what makes him so interesting.
Most arguments that Jefferson was hypocrite are rendered by people who have never once lifted a history book.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:58 pm to Antonio Moss
I have read shelves full of books on Jefferson. He is my favorite president, by far. I think it is wrong to call him a hypocrite but he certainly did hold views that would seem (on first glance) to be somewhat inconsistent. In his worldview, however, they were entirely consistent. He was a man of his place and time.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:59 pm to BayouBlitz
Same guys who started a country based on freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, and one nation under God?
They’d be closer to Trump than every bit of conservative fiber in Obama, Hilary, an Bernie’s body combined.
They’d be closer to Trump than every bit of conservative fiber in Obama, Hilary, an Bernie’s body combined.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:00 pm to BayouBlitz
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Let's see how many honest answers I get.
What a silly question. 
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:01 pm to Smeg
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Do you think any of the founders would have wanted open borders and allow any third worlder to just set up in America?
TJ probably would have been fine with it as long as they didn’t invade anyone’s private property or infringe on anyone’s freedoms
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:01 pm to BayouBlitz
I would think that they had their share of them and the results are that they did a damn good job of handling them. I'd suggest that you spend more time reading about the founding of this republic than watching CNN.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:03 pm to BayouBlitz
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Let's see how many honest answers I get.
Deflections from what? You made no point
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:06 pm to AggieHank86
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I think it is wrong to call him a hypocrite but he certainly did hold views that would seem (on first glance) to be somewhat inconsistent. In his worldview, however, they were entirely consistent. He was a man of his place and time.
So we are in agreement then.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:09 pm to bmy
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Rolling over in their graves
Since when do you care what they thought?
For the OP: national emergency or not... One of the ENUMERATED POWERS of the Federal Government is to protect its borders and citizens from foreign invasion. So, they would be fine with the wall. They would have skewered congresses for years on it taking this long though.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:09 pm to ItNeverRains
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Same guys who started a country based on freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, and one nation under God?
Incorrect
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:12 pm to BayouBlitz
I would hope they would be allowed to use actual common sense therefore eliminating such emergencies before they become a problem.
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:13 pm to Antonio Moss
Of course Jefferson would think he’s being consistent, and he did think so. His political philosophy really didn’t mesh with his actions as President. The man believed government should be its strongest at, what, a 10 mile radius? Yet he fought hard for and achieved the Louisiana Purchase. He was one of the few founding fathers I think to keep his slaves even though he didn’t actually care for the institution of it (or really the rational for enslaving black people). The Barbary Wars. He was a great President, but if you can’t see the inconsistencies with his political philosophy and the actions he took in office, I don’t know what to tell you.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:14 pm to Antonio Moss
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Incorrect
DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ...
guess they just put that in for fun in the Declaration but didn't mean any of it in the Constitution
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