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re: What, specifically, did Trump see Epstein do that made him tell Epstein to stop?

Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:49 am to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15980 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:49 am to
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Ask yourself this question: Would all of this explaining away and defense being played by many posters be the exact same if the subject was Joe Biden?


Like you actually did? It’s a proven fact, from the mouth of the victim, that Joe Biden was a pedophile that inappropriately showered with his preteen daughter. Yet.. what came of that?

Now you folks that are sooooooooooooo concerned with the Epstein files are taking every drip that has come out so far implicating an association with Epstein and democrats and merely sitting them aside. Just waiting on what you most certainly are not going to get. Else the last administration would have used it for certain victory instead of getting their arse handed to them again.

You folks are actually here proving that you are completely unconcerned with any name in the files other than Trump’s. And you are attempting to claim the opposite. Hell you folks have not uttered the word of Larry Summers with his unusual actions prior to the release. Remember who he was a close associate of?

Facta non Verba.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 8:51 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59990 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:52 am to
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You folks are actually here proving that you are completely unconcerned with any name in the files other than Trump’s.


Yet again, another stupid cultish response

I’m not concerned about the other people. I want them all to burn. I know the other people are evil.

I don’t know that about Trump. I’ve stood behind Trump for years. That is why I’m asking the question. Anyone who doesn’t understand that or refuses to see the common sense behind that, is acting like a cult member.

When did the right stop thinking?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:53 am to
He was poaching girls that worked at MAL.
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
459 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:54 am to
Most of the reporting I have seen is that their personal relationship fell apart due to a real estate deal, not the fact that Epstein liked young girls

LINK

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In 2002 Trump celebrated the fact that Epstein liked them young. He told NY Magazine

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
41631 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:56 am to
Call them evil all you want, but you aren’t calling them out either. Trump did what he did, knowing that Epstein has many high profile friends. It didn’t stop him. And what did he know? Enough to throw him out of his club. How’s that a problem for you?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59990 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:58 am to
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Call them evil all you want, but you aren’t calling them out either.


i’ve called out Democrats and those evil pedophiles on this site for literally decades. My post history should be evidence enough.

The fact that people no longer have the capability to think for themselves and ask questions without being labeled “being on the other team” is just straight up cultish

How do you not see this?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
41631 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:01 am to
The irony is real. Yet you still don’t see the difference between calling Democrats evil and calling out specific people who knew and did nothing. You have no idea what Trump really knew. Because he didn’t have to know anything. He saw an older man making advances on a teenage girl, an employee of his club. That was enough. Why should he be expected to be fully invested in the lives of other people like Epstein?

* and this was 2007 by the way. Before Epstein went to jail for 13 months the first time and years before Trump decided to run for office.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 9:03 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45830 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:09 am to
you sound like a fricking retard.... standing in a forest looking for evidence of trees.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15980 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:09 am to
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Yet again, another stupid cultish response


Apparently you have not read my multiple responses in other threads where we should be hanging more on the stories and revelations of the actual victims. Which no one seems to do for some reason. Same as the sexual assault slush fund is a complete and total non-concern and a nothingburger. “Buuut we are concerned about assault!! Trust us!!”

If the obvious signs of this being completely being political and not a pursuit of justice is the unanswered, obvious, questions of:

1) Why was there zero concern for the release of the files the last administration by who is pushing so hard now?

2) Being that the last administration had complete and total control of the files for years… why wouldn’t they leak any damning information against Trump or any other Republicans so that they would certainly win? Why hold it and lose?

This is the same cabal of people that put together and advanced the “Russian collusion” narrative. You don’t think they would take a softball pitch like this and put it out?

3) Why the complete and total lack of concern of the associations and fundraising pleas between democrats and Epstein? None. Zilch. Using his rapey bucks to fund campaigns are a non-concern? Really? Using him as a connection to get questions to ask in a committee hearing in real time? How did they start their association? Anything? We appear completely unconcerned with any of them “burning”.

4) why have we gotten away from “If he has nothing to hide… why won’t he testify?!? Let him prove his innocence!!!” now when referring to the Clintons and their flat denial of appearing in a congressional committee? It’s proven that Clinton had a close relationship with Epstein. Why the complete lack of concern? I thought everyone needed to burn?

These are valid questions. And there are apparently few answers.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 9:12 am
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5576 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:10 am to
You are never going to know the truth Don Quixote and the entire issue is problem number 8k facing our nation. I know you want it to be the defining issue going into the next election so you can label Trump a sexual predator
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59990 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:11 am to
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The irony is real. Yet you still don’t see the difference between calling Democrats evil and calling out specific people who knew and did nothing. You have no idea what Trump really knew. Because he didn’t have to know anything. He saw an older man making advances on a teenage girl, an employee of his club. That was enough. Why should he be expected to be fully invested in the lives of other people like Epstein?


your post doesn’t make any sense. If anything, you’re enhancing my point. Everyone in this thread admits and acknowledges that Trump “knew”, and that he considered Epstein “creepy”, and that he considered him so “creepy” that he stopped hanging out with him.

I don’t know how else to say this because it’s so self-evident and simple: Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Joe Biden, Obama, all the thousands of millionaires and billionaires, the royal family, bankers, world leaders around the world, any of these people who are caught up in this, are evil pedophiles or rapists

You acknowledge this and so does everyone else. So put those two thoughts together and let your brain cells fire: if it was so obvious that so many of these people were doing something so heinous over the years, and Trump knew that he was “creepy” to the point that he ended his relationship, what specifically did he know?

That is all this thread is about.

But apparently asking a simple question means I’m not “on the team”
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 9:13 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26751 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:13 am to
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But apparently asking a simple question means I’m not “on the team”


Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135054 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:15 am to
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So is anyone going to ask him, straight up, what specifically triggered his conscience?
It's been told 1000x. Epstein creeped on a MAL member's kid. The member went to Trump. Trump kicked Epstein to the curb. Epstein later falsely claimed he was never a MAL member. MAL records, noting his termination in Oct 2007, tell a different story.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5576 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:15 am to
IF you honestly think millionaires and billionaires were involved AND are going to be prosecuted on top of everything being released then you are dumber than I thought. This is all a giant waste of time aimed at ensnaring Trump, nothing more
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35080 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:15 am to
Someone complained to Trump that handsy Jeff was being handsy, in a very bad way. Trump had already heard about handsy Jeff's propensity toward perving on the younger girls but he had no firsthand knowledge of it until that point. Trump considered the complaint to be valid, and asked handsy Jeff to leave the premises and not return.

All of that is pretty common knowledge. Not some big conspiracy or enigma. Trump is actually well known as a very good guy when it comes to looking after the young women around him. A playboy? Sure. But not a predator.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45830 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:16 am to
Sometime between 2000-2007, JE soured on Trump after losing out to him on a real estate deal in Florida. Soon after, JE and GM were recruiting Giuffre from the club at MAL. Her father, a long-time MAL employee went to Trump. This is when he cut ties with JE and banned him from MAL.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 9:17 am
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
22886 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:19 am to
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It is worth mentioning that the attorneys trying to prosecute Epstein pointed out that Trump was one of the few people willing to come forward to speak out against Epstein.


Leftist and never-Trumpers don’t care about this fact. It doesn’t fit their narrative or within their talking points. It certainly doesn’t help them smear Trump for political purposes
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18925 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:20 am to
You have to assume everyone in the celeb and power circles knew he was messing around with young girls.

Hell…Larry Summers called him for advice.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 9:21 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45830 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:28 am to
Its all part of the wierd perverse fantasy that the JE scandal was some massive network of uber welathy pedos drinking baby's blood in secret dark arts ceremonies all over the world. The reality is exactly what's most plausible; that this cat was a pedo and he had a few close associates like GE and Prince Andrew who were also into that kind of shite. He was a force in finance and active in powerful social circles, and therfore he had many connections with powerful people - most of them had nothing to do with JEs darkside.

Trump did what literally any of us would have done in the same situation. Cut ties and report him. Its not complicated.

But like Trump himself, the JE story has become like a Bill Braskey story. People like OP can't think rationally any more.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15980 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:32 am to
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any of these people who are caught up in this, are evil pedophiles or rapists


Except that as certain associations with democrats come to light, they are being completely ignored on a national level.

The current house minority leader’s team was close enough to Epstein to go to him for big donations for his campaign. How were they that close to him? Why were they? Why are they requesting campaign funds from someone running an International Pedophile ring? Are these questions being asked of the minority leader?

Why are the actions of the close Bill Clinton associate Larry Summers not canvassing the chyrons of every network since these files are everyday news?

We don’t have to wait till the release to begin asking these questions. Why delay?
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 9:34 am
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