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re: What makes people more likely to be really into conspiracy theories?
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:41 pm to Froman
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:41 pm to Froman
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I’d for real love a breakdown as to why so many conservatives are conspiracy theorists. You could argue that a lot of them are just dumb, but there’s intelligent people I know that believe some super bonkers shite, and all are super MAGA.
I think it's because our knowledge-institutions (academia, science, journalism, media) have become distrusted by the right and are more trusted by the left. In order to counter the narrative power of the knowledge institutions, CT's are able to offer RW adherents handy stories for why the knowledge produced by those institutions shouldn't be trusted.
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:41 pm to jimmy the leg
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Your dumb RINO arse lives in the war thread.
You live and breathe every bit of bullshite that supports your views.
GTFO.
Triggered much?
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:42 pm to GOP_Tiger
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My mom lives in a completely different alternate universe. Every single year for the last fifteen years, she's been panicked that the next Great Depression is about to happen. She bought a truck made in 1972 so that she'll have a vehicle after the EMP destroys the electronics on all modern vehicles and renders them inoperable. She forwards warnings to me about the thousands of guillotines that have been distributed across the country for the immediate executions of Christians and conservatives, or about the 500,000 Chinese-backed narcotroops that are about to come across the US border and conquer the border states.
That really is heartbreaking, man. I saw a QANON documentary not long ago, and the strained family dynamic was a big part of the doc.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:42 pm to TigerDoc
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I think it's because our knowledge-institutions (academia, science, journalism, media) have become distrusted by the right and are more trusted by the left
You can't make this argument in the post-Covid world.
Those left-leaning institutions were literally creating and proliferating conspiracy theories and then saying anyone who opposed them was a conspiracy theorist
They've discredited themselves out of their ego, zealotry, and partisanship.
Same with the media being a coordinated entity with the DEM leadership for decades. They discredited themselves a long time ago.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:43 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
You mention conspiracy theories and almost all the noodle heads instantly assume politics
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:44 pm to 777Tiger
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hijack: how many conspiracy theorists on here that don't believe we landed on the moon but believe pro 'rasslin' is real?
Very true! I’ve seen more than one who believe the moon landing was staged on a Hollywood set…lol
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:47 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
I became more into them when they started coming true everyday.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think that's an illustration of why making "conspiracy theorist" a pejorative is somewhat harmful in an open society. It's a little like how opponents of the build-up to the Iraq War were called Conspiracy Theorists for not believing the supposed evidence of WMD's. The term can end up being a cudgel used by power against people rightly pointing out abuses of power.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:47 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
Your personal level of cynicism is a big factor. Some people believe there is more than we see at the surface. Your level of cynicism is a big part in determining how much you have interest in or believe in things past surface level, and how far you believe they go
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:48 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Triggered much?
Just observant.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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, but the mafia? They had just worked with the government to thwart Nazis
They were the most powerful organization in the country besides the government. They definitely had the means. The president was being paraded in the middle of town in a convertible. A homeless man could have killed a president during those times.
The mafia helped with nazi stuff at the docks and Sicily but that was a different generation and completely different groups within the mafia.
If the mafia did it, it wasn't tied to ussr. It was either alone(they had their reasons) or with another group and they would be the patsy
We'll never know though
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:49 pm to TigerDoc
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The term can end up being a cudgel used by power against people rightly pointing out abuses of power.
Can? I would suggest HAS is a more appropriate term.
Do you even Covid bro?
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:50 pm to TigerDoc
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cudgel
I was skeptical but it's real word.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:50 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
Just pissing off a totalitarian makes one a conspiracy theorist. Only conspiracy theorists would ever question our esteemed leaders and their motives.
Also any understanding of the scientific process makes you a conspiracy theorist. As we know now, science can never evolve or be questioned in any way.
Also any understanding of the scientific process makes you a conspiracy theorist. As we know now, science can never evolve or be questioned in any way.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:51 pm to TigerDoc
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think that's an illustration of why making "conspiracy theorist" a pejorative is somewhat harmful in an open society. It's a little like how opponents of the build-up to the Iraq War were called Conspiracy Theorists for not believing the supposed evidence of WMD's. The term can end up being a cudgel used by power against people rightly pointing out abuses of power.
True. I find the wholesale demonization of people with a natural skepticism who question authority to be far more harmful than their beliefs.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:52 pm to Deactived
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If the mafia did it, it wasn't tied to ussr.
If a conspiracy happened, I just don't see the mafia being able to fix LHO living in communism
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or with another group and they would be the patsy
Well like with the whole LHO living in Communism angle ruling out the mafia, the single variable that makes other organizations difficult to fit in is Jack Ruby, for the reasons you stated above.
But then you can peel back another layer and ask how a competent CT thesis could ultimately rely on such an obvious tell...why you can always create another layer above, so that the typical CT discussions are segregated as sheep-dullards who don't have access to the REAL secret information.
Whatever piece of sociology-psychology creates that valuation of "secret information" by humanity is the same thing spammed by cults and religions.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:53 pm to Robin Masters
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I find the wholesale demonization of people with a natural skepticism who question authority to be far more harmful than their beliefs.
This is why we can’t let the government control major social media platforms like Twitter anymore.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:53 pm to jimmy the leg
Right, that was SFP's point. I'm not a knee-jerk generalist against conspiracy-theorizing and I don't think it's helpful to call people out for it unless their theories are terrible theories. New theories that haven't been given adequate time to suss out deserve a bit of a pass until more info comes along. And like I said, the label of "conspiracy theorist" isn't good.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You can't make this argument in the post-Covid world.
Those left-leaning institutions were literally creating and proliferating conspiracy theories and then saying anyone who opposed them was a conspiracy theorist
They've discredited themselves out of their ego, zealotry, and partisanship.
Same with the media being a coordinated entity with the DEM leadership for decades. They discredited themselves a long time ago.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:55 pm to TigerDoc
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I think that's an illustration of why making "conspiracy theorist" a pejorative is somewhat harmful in an open society.
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The term can end up being a cudgel used by power against people rightly pointing out abuses of power.
And that's been mostly a one-way street since 2016
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