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re: What K-12 public school is teaching CRT?

Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Plx1776
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:16 am to
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If you think you're kids can be brainwashed by someone then you are telling me you are not confident in your parenting skills.


Or one could just take the ideologies out of schools.

Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:27 am to
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Or one could just take the ideologies out of schools.



In truth, I agree

But we won't win with that argument.

What DeSantis is doing is the way. Either bring the matter to a definitive confrontation (CRT vs. anti-CRT/Anti-Communism,etc.), or steer it to a negotiated truce (neutrality, in theory) using the threat of that confrontation. I don't think the latter will actually work, but I think it's a meritorious idea.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:50 am to
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What DeSantis is doing is the way.


As I understand FL schools weren’t even teaching it.

This all seems like a contrived moral panic like the Sharia Law stuff from a couple of years ago. It’s not much more than a Republican GOTV effort imo.
Posted by pawpoints19
San Antonio
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:54 am to
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As I understand FL schools weren’t even teaching it.

This all seems like a contrived moral panic like the Sharia Law stuff from a couple of years ago. It’s not much more than a Republican GOTV effort imo.


Kinda like Common Core, except CRT isn't being taught in schools. Pluto's not a planet anymore... MUH Common Core!
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:56 am to
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Pluto's not a planet anymore


The Plutonians should really consider reducing their plutonium mining so that their cold celestial dwarf *cough* I mean planet stops shrinking.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:59 am to
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This all seems like a contrived moral panic like the Sharia Law stuff from a couple of years ago.


bullshite. Find a district with over 5,000 students that doesn’t have a recently hired Director of Diversity, Inclusion and Equity. And then look at the last two conferences they attended as Dir. of DIE.
Posted by pawpoints19
San Antonio
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:05 am to
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Find a district with over 5,000 students that doesn’t have a recently hired Director of Diversity, Inclusion and Equity. And then look at the last two conferences they attended as Dir. of DIE.



So this means that they're teaching CRT?

Again, just because it's race adjacent doesn't make it CRT.

No more than updating Pluto's planetary status is Common Core.
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:12 am to
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This all seems like a contrived moral panic like the Sharia Law stuff from a couple of years ago. It’s not much more than a Republican GOTV effort imo.


Your dismissive deflection is noted.

As usual, you are wrong.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:12 am to
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So this means that they're teaching CRT? Again, just because it's race adjacent doesn't make it CRT.


Every.single.Director of DIE.has.a.hardon.for.CRT.

Every.single.one.

It’s what they all want to implement in some way, shape or form in their district. It’s their sole measure of the success of their efforts.

You can try to gaslight me on this but it’s a waste of time.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:42 am to
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As I understand FL schools weren’t even teaching it.

This all seems like a contrived moral panic like the Sharia Law stuff from a couple of years ago. It’s not much more than a Republican GOTV effort imo.



It's nothing like sharia law but that's the argument I'd use if I were you (because the sharia thing was legitimately overblown).

CRT is probably taught, either the theory or applied, in K12 training/education at 99% of colleges and school systems in the country. Whether or not it's called by name in the curriculum is pretty irrelevant if teachers are going to discuss whiteness, privilege, group identity, race essentialism, etc. or talk about themes from DiAnglo/Kendi/etc.

It's already there. You can probably easily find a teacher from every school system in America who is making CRT-based arguments on social media.

The visceral backlash and "it's not in K-12!" response that is coming from media/the left lets conservatives know they're over the target. It's a sacred cow that flew under the radar for a couple of decades and had its tentacles in most American institutions. Now that it's being called out by Joe Sixpack by name, there is palpable panic.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:43 am to
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Whether or not it's called by name in the curriculum is pretty irrelevant if teachers are going to discuss whiteness, privilege, group identity, race essentialism, etc. or talk about themes from DiAnglo/Kendi/etc.


This
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:45 am to
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Again, just because it's race adjacent doesn't make it CRT.



This is another conflation talking point - "we can't talk about racial issues!"

It's hilarious, because every K-12 program in America very likely teaches 10x about slavery and the Civil Rights Movement than the American Revolution or WWII. American classrooms already talked about race. A lot. The CRT fight does nothing to change that.

In fact, it's the CRTers who want to change it, because they're the ones trying to discard 50 years of colorblind curriculum. Which, by the way, actually has a record of progress.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:48 am to
I've got news for you . . . they're all being taught CRT. There may not be a curriculum published by your County School Board. But I promise you, they have a teacher who is gung ho for it and sneaks it in whenever and wherever they can.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:09 pm to
Here’s some meat on the bones for just the state of Missouri.

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Dr. LaGarrett King, a professor in the teaching college at the University of Missouri-Columbia, lists “race critical theories and knowledge” and “critical multicultural teacher education” as areas of expertise (seen in the screenshot).

Dr. L. King served as a consultant in implementation of the Webster Groves School District K-8 Social Studies curriculum – provided by the Southern Poverty Law Center - that was unanimously approved by the school board on April 22nd, 2021.

Dr. King has also consulted with Ladue School District, Francis Howell School District, Rockwood, and possibly others.

Dr. King is the Founding Director of the University’s Carter Center for K-12 Black History Education at the University of Missouri – Columbia, which falls under the Department of Learning, Teaching, and Curriculum. In this position, he has influence over the training of Missouri educators. Below is a screenshot from their website citing research in “critical pedagogies” and critical race theory (see number 2 below). This is clear evidence of how when districts say they “aren’t teaching Critical Race Theory,” they are being less than honest; the curricula, lessons, and policies they use are built from the perspective of Critical Race Theory, and it has the effect of indoctrinating children into this worldview.


Ladue - 4200 students
Webster - 4600 students
Frances Howell - 18,000 students
Rockwood - 22,000 students

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The founders of The Core Collaborative, Floyd Cobb and John Krownapple, authored a book entitled, Belonging Through a Culture of Dignity: The Keys to Successful Equity Implementation. The backgrounds of these authors demonstrate their experience with and promotion of critical race theory, as noted below in Dr. Cobb’s biography: Floyd Cobb is an adjunct faculty member with the Morgridge College of Education at the University of Denver. His coursework focuses on teaching methods along with the intersections of race, class, power and privilege. He has held a leadership role in issues related to educational equity . . . he is the co-author of the book, Interrogating Whiteness Relinquishing Power.

The Lee’s Summit School District (LSR7) contracted with The Core Collaborative for a supplement to EEC for $147,000. No public discussion occurred about the purchase and it was made after several parents spoke out against Critical Race Theory and Educational Equity Consultants. It is still CRT but is disguised as Social Emotional Learning (SEL). Core Collaborative is also being used in Wentzville, Lindbergh, and Francis Howell School Districts.

Wentzville - 12,000 students
Lindbergh - 7,000 students
Lees Summit - 18,000 students

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Educational Equity Consultants is a private company based in St. Louis that provides consulting services to educational entities. Their website, www.eec4justice.com, contains material consistent with critical race theory. For example, under the “Just Resources” section of the website/“Confronting Oppression”/ “Racial Equity Tools”/“Act”, they highlight this article by DiDi Delgado from the Huffington Post entitled, “Whites Only: SURJ and the Caucasian Invasion of Racial Justice Spaces.”

Their list of clients (which they have since scrubbed a bit) include 19 Missouri school districts (some already mentioned above) and a number of private Catholic schools. Also, the Missouri Dept of Ed (DESE) and the Missouri School Board Association were listed as clients. Alongside the school of Education for the University of Missouri - St. Louis.

Some notable districts contracting with EEC include:
Ferguson/ Florissant - 11,000 students
Belton - 5,000 students
St Louis Public Schools - 23,000 students
Clayton - 2,600 students
Hazelwood - 18,000 students
Kirkwood - 6,000 students
Parkway - 18,000 students
North KC - 20,000 students
Jennings - 2,500 students
U-City - 2,700 students

Almost every school in the St. Louis metro area on the Missouri side is listed in one of the lists above.

LINK
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:10 pm to
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CRT is probably taught, either the theory or applied, in K12 training/education at 99% of colleges and school systems in the country.


I searched the LSU catalog and found one graduate level course on it. So who cares about that? Colleges teach all kinds of shitty theories and have been doing it forever.

This stuff is way overblown. But Republicans need an issue for the midterms so they are hyping this way out of whack like they tend to do with these things.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:20 pm to
Oh. You think “Critical Race Theory” has to be in the title of the class for it to be taught from a CRT framework. Very smart.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112423 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:26 pm to
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It can be discussed in college.


There is a difference between 'discussed' and 'taught.'
I encountered CRT 25 years ago. The bullshite was easy to spot. Lots of things discussed in college are bullshite. However, it was not part of the curriculum 25 years ago. Now it is.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:32 pm to
Like this batshit crazy teacher.
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Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14485 posts
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:32 pm to
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Oh. You think “Critical Race Theory” has to be in the title of the class for it to be taught from a CRT framework. Very smart.


This is what is bugging me about the focus on CRT. The problem is so much bigger and wider.

It gives leftists a nice counter punch. OK we will get rid of CRT and now teach Diverse Indoctrination Perspective (or whatever).

Root and stem.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:34 pm to
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Here ya go alter.
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