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re: What is Trump's plan for inflation and reducing the federal deficit/debt?

Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:01 am to
Posted by P2K
Nevada
Member since Sep 2022
725 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:01 am to
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It is quite expensive to fix the monumental fuk ups that the Obama admin brought upon us. It will be much more expensive to fix the fuk ups of his third term currently happening now.


You people are so blinded




Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9170 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:03 am to
I like how the household median income reached its all time peak under Trump. Unfortunately Biden has done nothing but destroy that since he took office.


This post was edited on 3/9/24 at 8:47 pm
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32653 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:03 am to
Hot take: Trump isn’t a fiscal conservative and frankly (and depressingly) I don’t think one could even win the presidency any longer.

Ugh
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2264 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:06 am to
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think this is a big political win for Trump, but not a budget matter


Not a budget matter? Do you know how much afgan was costing us per day?

At this point with the interest on the debt the only thing you can do is promote everything you can into making our gdp run like a dragster. Interest rates are killing us with the debt so inflation has to be reeled in period. Keep inflation low and get interest rates down. Trumps economy was spot on. We need it back quickly. Going to be a tough row to how at this point for anyone.
Posted by bostitch
Member since Apr 2016
535 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:09 am to
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spending should never increase more than the current inflation rate and GDP growth rate except in times of war or other emergencies


There will never not be a war or emergency. Our government will manufacture them if they have to.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11110 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:11 am to
There’s two issues here. Trump would have been crucified if he didn’t pass the CARES Act while local governments shut down their economies. The “do something” crowd owns that. At the same time he was never a spending hawk so he gets to own it for passing it, and on one of his last days extending it.

The cost of living increases were mostly a derivative of the lockdowns, however. And the Trump hating crowd is more guilty of those policies being implemented and prolonged for no reason. Indicting Trump for that is revisionist history.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73754 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:12 am to
Why does your chart exclude this current admins spending?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422567 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:13 am to
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Trump would have been crucified if he didn’t pass the CARES Act while local governments shut down their economies. The “do something” crowd owns that. At the same time he was never a spending hawk so he gets to own it for passing it, and on one of his last days extending it.

But even prior to this, Trump's spending was increasing at a similar rate to Obama's.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422567 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:13 am to
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Why does your chart exclude this current admins spending?


It's irrelevant and already explained earlier ITT.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30117 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:16 am to
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But even prior to this, Trump's spending was increasing at a similar rate to Obama's.

Show your work on that. It’s quite the “massive” statement to make with using so few words. Sounds made up.
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9345 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:16 am to
So you’re rolling with potato in November? Got it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422567 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:16 am to
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Show your work on that.

Literally posted in OP
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422567 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:16 am to
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So you’re rolling with potato in November?

No?
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37637 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:19 am to
LOL at these clowns who think Trump is a fiscal conservative
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260611 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:19 am to
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It is quite expensive to fix the monumental fuk ups that the Obama admin brought upon us.


Trumps economy was simply a continuation of Obama's economy.



In practice, this is MMT

quote:

Put simply, modern monetary theory decrees that such governments do not rely on taxes or borrowing for spending since they can print as much money as they need and are the monopoly issuers of the currency. Since their budgets aren’t like a regular household’s, their policies should not be shaped by fears of a rising national debt.


It caused massive inflation.
This post was edited on 3/9/24 at 11:22 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73754 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:20 am to
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It's irrelevant




But to answer your question he wont. No one will
He will force rate drops and a reverse market crash will happen

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35041 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:20 am to
Nothing because the only feasible plans for the debt are political suicide.

1. End social security.
2. End Medicare/medicaid
3. Taxes to the moon

So until it’s time to pay the piper, we will continue spending imaginary money because debt is imaginary until the day it becomes real.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
4996 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:22 am to
Nothing, same as every politician in DC.

Unless you can find a way to ban corporate lobbying, there will never be an end to absurd federal spending until the balloon finally pops.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260611 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:22 am to
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LOL at these clowns who think Trump is a fiscal conservative


Trump practiced the economics Bernie would love. Minus the punitive taxes on the wealthy.
This post was edited on 3/9/24 at 11:24 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101438 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:24 am to
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So until it’s time to pay the piper, we will continue spending imaginary money because debt is imaginary until the day it becomes real.


And even then, it will still be essentially imaginary, or it’s certainly never going to be “real” in the sense of a normal sort of consumer understanding of what it would ever mean to “pay back” debt.

I’m not saying this as if it’s a good OR bad thing.
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