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Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:15 pm to 4cubbies
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It looks like you agree this is cruel unless she’s done something illegal that we don’t know about
Nope. You cut off my second sentence.
Being detained is not cruelty.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:15 pm to 4cubbies
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In other words, there is no logic behind this deportation but oh well? That's an actual human. She is being sent to some foreign land after almost 50 years and this is your response.
The people you support let in millions of unvetted illegals. It is now a huge problem that requires drastic measures. That includes sweeping changes immediately without taking the time to litigate each case.
Some "good people" are going to get the short end of the stick. That's just life when you're dealing with a problem of this magnitude.
If a lot of homeless people are causing trouble, you ban the homeless. You don't interview each one to see which ones can stay camped on the sidewalk. It's the only practical approach even though it hurts feelings.
Blame the people that created the problem, not the ones doing the necessary dirty work to fix it.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:15 pm to 4cubbies
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Biden didn't order her deportation
Or any of the other millions of ILLEGALS in this country.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:16 pm to 4cubbies
She must have been super busy for 50 solid years not to try to become legal.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:17 pm to Kashmir
Biden was the one acting like a king. Trump is simply fulfilling his constitutional obligation to take care that the laws be enforced.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:18 pm to Froman
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Cruelty is literally the only reason to do this. When we talk about getting illegal immigration under control, we are not talking about people that have done everything the right way, contribute to society, and have been allowed to stay for 50 years. Thats why even conservatives are starting to turn on these raids, and the ones who do still support are struggling to justify it, as evidenced by posts on this board.
Not worrying about whether it's nice to do it or not is quite seriously the only way to accomplish the mission.
Sucks. Perhaps the people who put us in this position should be held accountable.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:19 pm to 4cubbies
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She was told that if she adheres to certain conditions, she could stay in the country. She adhered to those conditions.
Did you even read your own article? She was denied asylum but was allowed to remain temporarily at ICE’s discretion. ICE decided no more discretion.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:19 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:20 pm to 4cubbies
I think this is her. She should have self deported years ago like she was supposed to. Tried to have an anchor baby and they said she still had to go.
As always, we don't have the full story.
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Mandana Kashanian Milne, Petitioner, v. IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION SERVICE, Respondent.
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Milne is a 38-year old female native and citizen of Iran.
She was admitted to the United States on July 24, 1978 on a nonimmigrant student visa and gained authorization to remain in the U.S. until May 31, 1983 by changing her status to that of a spouse of a nonimmigrant student.
When that time elapsed, the Immigration and Naturalization Service (“INS”) commenced deportation proceedings against her by serving her with a notice to appear.
Eventually, an immigration judge (IJ) denied Milne's request for asylum, ruling, inter alia, that she failed to demonstrate that she would suffer extreme hardship if deported.
The IJ entered an order allowing 90 days for her to depart voluntarily and, alternatively, for her to be deported should she fail to do so.
Milne appealed that decision to the BIA.
The BIA affirmed the IJ's decision in a per curiam opinion in 1992 and reinstated an order allowing 30 days for voluntary departure, again with an alternate order of deportation.
Milne appealed that decision, and we affirmed the BIA's decision in an unpublished opinion. She then filed a motion with the BIA to reopen her appeal, claiming that facts arising after the initial BIA decision-specifically, her remarriage to a United States citizen by whom she had borne a child in 1993-established that she would indeed experience extreme hardship if deported.
The BIA denied this motion in 1997 without reaching the merits, finding that § 309(c)(5) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (“IIRIRA”), rendered Milne ineligible for reopening as a matter of law because she had not established seven years of continuous physical presence here.
As always, we don't have the full story.
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:20 pm to 4cubbies
I don’t see an issue. She was here illegally after the asylum claim was denied. Why did the Biden administration deny the German family living in Tennessee’s asylum claim and deport them?
For some reason you didn’t have a problem with that one.
For some reason you didn’t have a problem with that one.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:21 pm to Riverside
So what do you recommend we do with her? Send her back to a place where she would most probably be killed just to satisfy some sort of score against Democrats on your part?
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:21 pm to 4cubbies
No question as to why she didn’t become a citizen in 50 friken years?
I wanna know who gets on the “I get to pick and choose laws” list that you folks have. What are the qualifications? Is there a form? Interview for it? How do I get exempt from some laws?
Same Q for you.
I wanna know who gets on the “I get to pick and choose laws” list that you folks have. What are the qualifications? Is there a form? Interview for it? How do I get exempt from some laws?
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So what do you recommend we do with her? Send her back to a place where she would most probably be killed just to satisfy some sort of score against Democrats on your part?
Same Q for you.
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:22 pm to 4cubbies
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I understand arguing that because the government can legally detain and deport her, it should. To claim this isn’t a punishment is dishonest.
No it's not. It's not even out of ill will, most likely.
She has no right to be here so she's not going to be here (potentially). How is that punishment?
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:23 pm to KiwiHead
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So what do you recommend we do with her? Send her back to a place where she would most probably be killed just to satisfy some sort of score against Democrats on your part?
You could make that argument about every illegal from every shithole country.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:23 pm to KiwiHead
She should be returned to her home country.
The Immigration Judge determined over 40+ years ago that her claims of persecution weren’t credible.
The Immigration Judge determined over 40+ years ago that her claims of persecution weren’t credible.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:23 pm to Decatur
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There’s much I don’t say on this board. I’m pretty limited with how much I can post and what kind of posts I can make on this board. I’m happy to post more of my opinions on this board if the admins won’t ban me again for giving an honest opinion on something. Posting on this board over the last few years has been like walking on egg shells so I don’t offend the wrong person.
That's great and all, but it really doesn't aid your position for this particular argument.
Nobody would ban you for advocating for deportations of illegal immigrants or objecting to Biden intentionally letting them flood the country.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:24 pm to KiwiHead
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So what do you recommend we do with her?
Deport her for being here illegally.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:25 pm to KiwiHead
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just to satisfy some sort of score against Democrats on your part?
From the idiots that cheered the absolutely bogus charges and sham trials against Trump.
Notice it’s always the left that gets the rock rolling and then cries when another group pushes it faster???
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:26 pm to Pettifogger
So go for the low hanging fruit devastate American families just to prove a point?
......tough guys!!!!!!
......tough guys!!!!!!
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