re: What If Cures Already Exist?

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This just seems like an odd deflection to try and make it political to excuse the medical industry for what they did. I'm pretty sure the same response would have happened regardless of who was elected, considering politicians are owned by the same people.

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He sounds like a pharma rep.

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You claimed nobody has it and you are obviously wrong. I doubt I am alone.

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Again, there does not exist this subset in a population that has 0 problems. Regardless of what you think.

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Occasionally? It's constantly happening. What about the people who are having organs harvested while still alive? There is an entire abortion industry.

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Do you think the entire medical apparatus has to answer for things that are already illegal?

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It was last updated in 2021 so that the jab could be included in it.

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I mean, that is what you want to believe.

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You claimed 0 previously. And the rate you are talking about would be the rate admitted to/acknowledged.

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What? I claimed 0 what? You need to reread I wrote.

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All for a virus 99% of the people survived from.

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The standard for a pathogen with pandemic potential is 0.1% CFR. The untreated CFR for COVID is much higher, especially at older age cohorts.

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Do you know what causes it then? There is certainly correlation, and while correlation doesn't imply causation it definitely requires another look.

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There is no correlation.

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I'd bet my left nut the cause is medical related.

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The likelihood is that it comes from you and your genes than it does from something exogenous.

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This just seems like an odd deflection to try and make it political to excuse the medical industry for what they did. I'm pretty sure the same response would have happened regardless of who was elected, considering politicians are owned by the same people.

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No, it is a direct response to your quip about accountability. You can't follow an argument to save your life, can you?

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Again, there does not exist this subset in a population that has 0 problems. Regardless of what you think.

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This right here might be a prime example of what is wrong with the medical industry. You're determined everyone is a customer.

I didn't need a doctor during that time and to say otherwise makes you a liar.

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Do you think the entire medical apparatus has to answer for things that are already illegal?

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I think they are examples that the medical industry is made up of humans who will do human things and people like you and others who try to sugar coat the industry are just propaganda mouthpieces.

I'm more than willing to admit that some doctors are good and things vary. You however are determined to put this entire cover over the industry to say it's all good blah blah blah. And anytime someone points out something that happens, well that's different and you move the goal posts.

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I mean, that is what you want to believe.

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No, that is the fact. The CDC changed the definition in 2021.

It was changed from a product that produces "immunity" to one that stimulates an "immune response". And vaccination was redefined from producing "immunity" to providing "protection".

That is a fact. And yet you are going to sit here a lie to say otherwise while at the same time claming your motives are for the benefit of others?

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What? I claimed 0 what? You need to reread I wrote.

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Ok, here it is.

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There are none.

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The standard for a pathogen with pandemic potential is 0.1% CFR. The untreated CFR for COVID is much higher, especially at older age cohorts.

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Your industry pushed a shot on people of all ages regardless of risk on a virus that overall wasn't remotely harmful to people and over 99% of them lived.

There is no "much higher".

It was at best done for profit, at worse done for population management and testing in a planned event.

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There is no correlation.

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Now I will accept that maybe there is another cause and the correlation is coincidental. But to say there is no correlation is a lie.

Are you always this dishonest?

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The likelihood is that it comes from you and your genes than it does from something exogenous.

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Yep, it just suddenly appeared in people's genes at an increasing rate.

Again, just more dishonest bullshite. You are a prime example of why people do not trust the medical industry.

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No, it is a direct response to your quip about accountability. You can't follow an argument to save your life, can you?

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You mean the part of the argument where you tried to deflect the medical industry being held accountable because "you people elected the guy who was president when it started"?

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Great. You don't know what these terms mean in an immunologic sense. Why don't you explain to me what the differences in the definitions are, using immunologic terminology?

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Why because you don't want to admit the definition changed?

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Lol. There is no correlation between vaccines and autism that anyone takes seriously.

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Don't think you understand what the word correlation means.

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Clearly you aren't aware of a great many things. Add this to the list.

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There has been nearly 8000% increase in cases since 1986.

You're a fricking joke.

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Let's be real. You don't care about accountability. It's just something you want to use but don't want to see.

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You are the one that doesn't seem to care about accountability.

As long as billionaires are dying of cancer at semi-young ages, we know there’s no cure for that type

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Because you don't know what those words mean regardless of the definition. Thank you from backing down from something we both know you cannot handle.

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The definition was changed in 2021 by the CDC so that the shot could be called a vaccine.

Period. Deal with it.

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You can correlate a lot of things to a lot of other things. Organic food sales are also correlated. The mere correlation isn't significant to investigate. It also purports to know more than just the correlation.

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Thus the phrase correlation doesn't equal causation. As I said, I can accept alternative causes, but for you to claim there is no correlation is absurd and wrong.

And the correlation means there should be better and more attention paid to it, not people like you who refuse to accept it's even possible despite the correlation.

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Why would I need to be held accountable? I haven't done anything other than disagree with chuds on the internet.

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Nobody said anything about you specific. Just another deflection from the point because you're extremely dishonest and can't be trusted.

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I think they are examples that the medical industry is made up of humans who will do human things and people like you and others who try to sugar coat the industry are just propaganda mouthpieces

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There are plenty of examples of doctors to intentionally misdiagnose for $$$...

Doctor allegedly made millions off fake cancer diagnoses

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A Florida doctor stands accused of falsely diagnosing patients with cancer for profit and now he’s paying the price.

Dr. Gary Marder has agreed to pay the government millions of dollars after charging patients on Medicare who were not sick, WPTV reported.

Marder, a physician in Port St. Lucie, Florida, would wrongfully diagnose patients with skin cancer and recommend they undergo radiation treatment, according to federal prosecutors.

He was caught when one patient went to another doctor for a second opinion.

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https://nypost.com/2017/02/10/doctor-made-millions-off-fake-cancer-diagnoses/

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Dr. Farid Fata, a Michigan oncologist, was sentenced to 45 years in prison for fraudulently diagnosing patients with cancer and administering unnecessary chemotherapy, affecting over 553 patients. He was found guilty of health care fraud, conspiracy, and money laundering, having submitted approximately $34 million in fraudulent claims.

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https://www.today.com/news/cancer-doctor-gave-needless-chemo-35m-fraud-prosecutors-say-6C10913890

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Also you realize these are not really impressive numbers, depending on the study design, right?

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Practically everyone involved in that "study" was receiving some form of traditional/conventional cancer treatment during the study. Results were also self reported with no control or double-blind. A third of the patients dropped out of the "study" early. There's a reason the "study" was immediately flagged by the very journal that published it with that journal admitting that the acceptance of the paper violated multiple publication standards of the journal itself. The Wellness Company (a telehealth and pharmacy company) also used a pool of its own patients that it was already selling the medication being studied. That company makes a large portion of its money selling the drugs it was studying. No conflict of interest, though......right?

In other words, this followed the course of the majority of the "research" that The Wellness Company is behind, leading to yet another likely retraction for Nicolas Hulscher and crew.

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I'm not claiming I have the cure for cancer doofus.

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You asked me to dox people by giving you their name and address. What kind of doctor do you claim to be?

Why don't you post your legal name, address, SS and blood type.

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An experimental personalized cancer vaccine from Merck
and Moderna
showed positive initial results in its first-ever late-stage trial, the companies announced Wednesday, bringing them one step closer to filing for approval of the treatment option.

The mRNA-based shot in combination with Merck’s immunotherapy Keytruda met key goals in the Phase 3 trial in more than 1,100 patients with higher-risk or advanced melanoma whose detectable cancer had been completely removed through surgery.

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The initial data suggests that the combo could serve as a new treatment option for melanoma, which accounts for only about 1% of skin cancers but causes the large majority of deaths among them. Most recurrences of melanoma develop in the first two to three years after initial treatment and removal.

Melanoma patients are “stuck having to deal with the new gravity of that diagnosis and then undergo uncomfortable treatments like surgery, and after that, they’re worried about their cancer coming back,” Dr. Jane Healy, Merck’s head of oncology early development, said in an interview.

She called it “very exciting” that the therapy led to a “clinically meaningful improvement” over Keytruda – the standard of care for melanoma – and was well tolerated by patients. Side effects were similar to other vaccines that people typically get for other diseases, Healy noted.

The results also validate a personalized treatment approach that Merck and Moderna have been developing for decades, she added.

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Moderna and Merck announce trial vaccine for late stage CNBC melanoma