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re: What if a pregnant Canadian, European, or Asian tourist is on vacation in the U.S....

Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:30 am to
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23831 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:30 am to
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and they happen to go into labor.... will their child automatically become a U.S. citizen?

If not, why do illegals get a pass?


No. The parents are under the jurisdiction of their country of origin. Illegals fall under that same category and is how SCOTUS will rule once this makes it to that level.
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1287 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:37 am to
Believe that happens a lot with Chinese in Canada.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:46 am to
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.... will their child automatically become a U.S. citizen?
Yep.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28603 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:49 am to
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What if a pregnant Canadian, European, or Asian tourist is on vacation in the U.S....

There is an entire industry engaged in pregnancy tourism to the US. The Russians in particular were reportedly using Trump owned condos in Miami as hotels for birthing foreigners.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13299 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:49 am to
Can confirm. Almost the entire service industry on S. Beach (and "service" industry as well)!
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90799 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:51 am to
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The Russians in particular were reportedly using Trump owned condos in Miami as hotels for birthing foreigners.
Yeah because they are luxury condos, no other reason why Einstein.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
36330 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:51 am to
Dual citizenship is a weird situation. My good friend married a Canadian girl he met in law school. However her parents are 2nd generation Italian Canadians so she was already a dual Canadian-Italian and after they were married she kept the Canadian-Italian citizenship and got the proper documents to work in the US as a lawyer. I tried asking my buddy and he said its so complex it even confuses him.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5446 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:53 am to
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How many women who are about to give birth go on long flights and vacation?


More than you think. A lot of wealthy russians go to Miami for birth so their kid has dual citizenship. I think this is all BS and you should have to apply for birthright citizenship 90 days prior, in person, and show you have a legal status or something similar.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34210 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:59 am to
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can see maybe Asia. But provide the Canadian and Europe numbers

Not native Canadians and Europeans, but the invaders from Africa and ME that now reside in Canada and Europe.
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
1083 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:00 am to
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Go spend some time in Miami and you'll see a ton of pregnant eastern euro chicks, mostly russian. Where i stay in miami, there are more russians than cubans.


Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
4420 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:02 am to
Did they cross the border illegally to vacation here?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35579 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:11 am to
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and they happen to go into labor.... will their child automatically become a U.S. citizen?

If not, why do illegals get a pass?


Yes. Extremely common.

Someone could be flying from Brazil to Canada and go into labor on a layover in O'Hare and the kid is a U.S. Citizen. Completely ridiculous.
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6583 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:11 am to
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How many women who are about to give birth go on long flights and vacation?


How many viable births happen in the 6th and 7th month of pregnancy? I agree, I don't believe too many women would plan a vacation at week 35-36 of a pregnancy, but it is still a valid question.
Posted by First Sergeant1
Enterprise, Alabama
Member since Dec 2018
1043 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:18 am to
My son was born in Germany when I was serving in the Army but the decision on citizenship had to be made immediately if I remember correctly…
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35579 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:20 am to
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I agree, I don't believe too many women would plan a vacation at week 35-36 of a pregnancy, but it is still a valid question.


They do if it is their plan to give birth in the United States.

Birth Tourism is a real and common thing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:20 am to
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As John Eastman, former dean of the Chapman School of Law, has said, many do not seem to understand “the distinction between partial, territorial jurisdiction, which subjects all who are present within the territory of a sovereign to the jurisdiction of that sovereign’s laws, and complete political jurisdiction, which requires allegiance to the sovereign as well.”


Anybody remember what happened the last time John Eastman came up with a clever Constitutional legal strategy?
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:22 am to
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How many women who are about to give birth go on long flights and vacation?


It's an industry. Surely you are not this ignorant.
Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
1703 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:22 am to

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How many women who are about to give birth go on long flights and vacation?



I'm helping you out...

ICE Website
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:23 am to
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How many women who are about to give birth go on long flights and vacation?


My wife would, to the US, if we weren't citizens.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:23 am to
Was his Mom a German?
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