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Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:14 am to Revelator
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Why would we encourage this? So if they join NATO and are somehow attacked, we can now send billions of dollars to them too?!
Helps to drum up reasons for more spending in the MIC.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:14 am to CitizenK
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This is nothing to do with the US urging them
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:15 am to xxTIMMYxx
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The more the countries, the higher chance we are drawn into war
Nobody is rolling tanks on NATO countries right now.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:16 am to Gravitiger
quote:2% of GDP seems a reasonable figure, and I certainly agree that each NATO country should try to achieve this goal.
I guarantee you'd be the first to bitch about other countries not pulling their weight.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:16 am to troyt37
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Nobody is rolling tanks on NATO countries right now.
Even better, nor has anyone ever done so. The “expanding NATO encourages more war” for the members trope has zero historical support.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 9:17 am
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:24 am to AggieHank86
Seeing your Buckley hero worship on display reminds me about a couple of articles I read this weekend. Ever delve into the Edgar Smith/William F. Buckley debacle? I find it interesting how gullible Buckley was, apparently falling for a little faux erudite writing.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:26 am to Revelator
Fixin to downvote for lack of Swedish Women’s beach volleyball team pics…
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:35 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Fixin to downvote for lack of Swedish Women’s beach volleyball team pics…
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You wouldn't miss it. I think they are all required to wear a burqa now.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:37 am to Revelator
“War” - loosely defined as perpetual conflicts with no stated goals other than milking us taxpayers and sending our brave soldiers to die.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:43 am to SouthEasternKaiju
And Finland for good measure
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 9:45 am
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:46 am to Revelator
Speaking at the Collective Security Treaty Organization’s summit in the Kremlin, Putin said that further NATO enlargement “is a problem that has been created completely artificially, since it is being done in the foreign policy interests of the United States.”
He added that the military bloc has been routinely used as a foreign policy instrument of one country – the US, but “quite persistently, skilfully and very aggressively.”
He added that the military bloc has been routinely used as a foreign policy instrument of one country – the US, but “quite persistently, skilfully and very aggressively.”
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:49 am to troyt37
Are you under some impression they plan to use nato for defense
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:50 am to Revelator
Russia has legit concerns now if Finland joins NATO I feel. They were told that no bordering countries would join I thought...
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:51 am to Big Gorilla
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NATO has become a useless organization. Not sure why it still exists.
I dont think NATO is useless. But the UN is 100%.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:53 am to ShakeandBake
quote:Poking the Bear is all this is.
Poking the Bear so to speak
The New Evil Empire is doing the equivalent of moving missiles into Cuba
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:53 am to Revelator
Both countries have declared no foreign military bases or nukes on their soil. And those two countries will stick to that.
Sweden's army is small but they bring high tech military equipment and the Finnish army is really legit (equipment and available highly trained manpower.) Both are already NATO standard and will pull their weight as far as the 2% GDP requirement. They are not deadbeats like the damn welching Germans.
Those are reasons. I don't care if they join or not. That is their decision.
Sweden's army is small but they bring high tech military equipment and the Finnish army is really legit (equipment and available highly trained manpower.) Both are already NATO standard and will pull their weight as far as the 2% GDP requirement. They are not deadbeats like the damn welching Germans.
Those are reasons. I don't care if they join or not. That is their decision.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:55 am to xxTIMMYxx
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Are you under some impression they plan to use nato for defense
Are you under some impression that aggressive countries don't think twice, and then twice again before attacking a NATO country? Are you under the impression that Russia would be doing what they are doing in Ukraine, if Ukraine were a NATO country?
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:56 am to Revelator
To piss off the Russians and have NORDEFCO working with NATO under one command in the Baltic sea. That's bad news for the Russians militarily.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:56 am to sms151t
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Russia has legit concerns now if Finland joins NATO I feel.
Yes, NATO and Finland’s 80 year history of invading Russia should give them concern. /s/. Regardless, fine. Let them be concerned. They still don’t get to dictate the policy decisions of other countries.
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They were told that no bordering countries would join I thought...
NATO has bordered Russia since 2004.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 9:58 am
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