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What country has the most data about the Russian terror attack

Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:03 am
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:03 am


I see a concerted effort by western media to deny that Ukraine had anything to do with the theater massacre. Where are they getting their data from. CIA?

the Russians have been collecting data on the 4 terriost and 7 helpers. Except for pointing out that the captured were close to a Ukrainian escape, Russia has been restrained in its conclusions.

Isis claiming responsibility? Likely hood of a compensated claim would be very high
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:13 am to

Remember, the CIA's job description is to spy and misinform.
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:26 am to
Look I am skeptical of Ukraine and the CIA as the next guy, but how would they benefit by doing this?
Posted by Buryl
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:28 am to
The US government literally issued a public warning about the attack weeks before it occurred. Odd thing to do if you're behind it.

Also I would not believe anything coming from Russia or the terrorists they captured. Right now its in Russia's best interest to blame the attack on Ukraine to help harden public support for their invasion. They do not give the tiniest shite about the truth.
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:32 am to
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What country has the most data about the Russian terror attack


You would think the Russians. But it sounds like they have some holes and issues in their intelligence agencies and things like that.
Posted by BayouBlitz
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:40 am to
You do know ISIS posted their own footage by the terrorists?

And pics of the terrorists before the attack?
Posted by ElChupacabra
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:43 am to
This former CIA counter-intelligence agent thinks it was Ukraine.

He says the US put out the alert because they knew Ukraine had something in the pipeline and the alert was an attempt to get them to stop it.

Video
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:47 am to
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Occam's razor. Look at who benefits. All that.

There is no scenario in which Ukraine or The West benefit from civilian mass murder events in Russia. None. Nada.

Islamists didn't disavow their mission all of a sudden to placate conspiracy theorists in The West. They want the infidel to suffer and die. They want revenge and they want to fulfill what they think is Islamic destiny. They have been screaming it at you your entire life and foe centuries before. You can ignore it and project their crimes onto others any time you want, but it doesn't change that.
Posted by GoldenGuy
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:49 am to
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There is no scenario in which Ukraine or The West benefit from civilian mass murder events in Russia. None. Nada.


Except, you know… a war.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:50 am to
Nah it helps Russia propaganda wise and doesn't slow down the Russian military at all. It's a total waste of resources military if you're inside the country surely you could find a better target.
Posted by DellTronJon
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:52 am to
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Look I am skeptical of Ukraine and the CIA as the next guy, but how would they benefit by doing this?


Ukraine has nothing to do with the war they are fighting other than letting their young men die. They are fighting on behalf of the US empire because our people do not yet have the appetite to let our young men die for the empire's agenda. If the CIA can provoke a huge response from Russia they can likely gain support for sending our troops their to 'peace keep.' I repeat, Ukraine has nothing to gain from any of this. Their corrupt oligarchs are selling them out.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:53 am to
Now tell me the benefit to Ukraine.
Posted by TerryDawg03
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:54 am to
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What country has the most data about the Russian terror attack


I would hope Five Eyes has some sort of idea by now.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:07 am to
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The US government literally issued a public warning about the attack weeks before it occurred. Odd thing to do if you're behind it.


I said this yesterday..... Unless one was attempting to create plausible deniability.
I don't put anything past our government in its attempts to hurt Russia. Think the Nordstream pipeline "explosion".
Then we have Victoria Nuland's comments about "asymmetrical" warfare, which includes terrorist attacks.
Just sayin
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:10 am to
When the news broke I knew two things for sure. First, Putin would try to tie the attack to Ukraine. Second, the Poliboard would join in the chorus and, as an added bonus, implicate the CIA as aiding and abetting. We really are living an Alice through the looking glass era.
Posted by ElChupacabra
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:15 am to
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Now tell me the benefit to Ukraine.



An attempt to provoke an emotional response from Russia. For example, Russia responding and killing a bunch of civilians with missiles in Kyiv would garner more support from the West and even potentially bring them into the conflict. That is what Ukraine desperately seeks as they can see the writing on the wall, Russia is grinding them down to a pulp.

An attempt to draw Russian resources into going after these terrorist cells in Tajikistan or elsewhere. Hoping to maybe stir up conflict between Russia and one of the predominantly Muslim populations bordering it. Or even to create dissent between the Slavs and the 20ish million Muslims living in Russia.




Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:17 am to

Who can really trust the CIA.

There was this one guy one time who was taking steps to dismantle it.

The CIA blew his head off in daylight right in front of everyone.
Posted by ElChupacabra
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:18 am to
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Islamists didn't disavow their mission all of a sudden to placate conspiracy theorists in The West.


Radical Islamic terrorists also don't carry out terrorist attacks for money, which these guys did. They go into the attack to kill as many people as possible on their way to martyrdom, that also didn't happen here.

Something stinks here, whoever pulled the strings on this thing was not counting on these guys still being alive.
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:23 am to
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This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 11:25 am
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:24 am to
And you think that is more plausible than Islamists just doing what their stated mission statement and purpose for being is? Considering they have a clear and stated motive, have done it forever, took responsibility and released confirmation videos ?
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