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re: What changed political views and the animosity of parties so much in 2000?

Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:18 am to
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:18 am to
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Perhaps I should introduce you to the birther movement and the "Obama is really a secret Muslim supporting radical extremists" rhetoric



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but you have a large population who literally believes he's part of a Satanic child raping ring, along with lots of other Democrat


The difference being those are voters and not people in positions of influence and power on public policy.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:22 am to
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legit Leftists


ISWYDT
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:23 am to
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Perhaps I should introduce you to the birther movement


Oh you mean that thing that Hillary's people brought to the fore?
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:25 am to
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I mean, y'all should see how legit Leftists describe the Trump presidency and the MAGA movement.

uh...we DO see it. and it is way more unhinged than anythign coming out of the Right.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:26 am to
I think it ramped up with Nixon and the Watergate hearings.

It accelerated with the Tower, Thomas and Bork confirmation hearings.

Then the Democrats viewed the Clinton impeachment as an escalation in the war.

Most of it is the iron law of woke projection. You can usually rest assured that they’re doing whatever they’re accusing Republicans of doing.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:26 am to
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What changed political views and the animosity of parties so much in 2000?
I think the political climate really changed when Clinton was impeached in 1998-99 and then Gore lost to Bush (and the hanging chad ordeal) in 2000.

Everything seemed to ramp up after those events...

Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:27 am to
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What changed political views


Barrack Hussein Obama.

He put every Moderate Democrat on notice their time was over. He shifted everything Hard Left.

His forcing Obamacare through fast tracked a lot of careers to end in the Senate in the South.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:28 am to
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They seek - quite literally- to replace all of our most cherished American traditions, principles, ideals and Institutions.

One of the ultimate goals of the colonizer/critical race/radical feminist narratives is to rewrite a US Constitution and remove the protections against authoritarianism therein.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:31 am to
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I think the political climate really changed when Clinton was impeached in 1998-99 and then Gore lost to Bush (and the hanging chad ordeal) in 2000.

Everything seemed to ramp up after those events...


Hail King Chicken
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:32 am to
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Oh you mean that thing that Hillary's people brought to the fore?

Sure. Irrelevant to this discussion, but sure.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:58 am to
Demographics really started to change around mid 90s and democrats started abandoning the blue collar white voters in favor of pandering to minorities post Bill Clinton. It ramped up as soon as the older democrats like Robert Byrd retired or died



Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:01 pm to
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Demographics really started to change around mid 90s and democrats started abandoning the blue collar white voters in favor of pandering to minorities

Jimmy Carter got 83% of the black vote in 1980

Unions (the "blue collar white voters") still support DEMs in very high amounts today.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 12:01 pm
Posted by lsusa
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:51 pm to
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I don't think that's entirely accurate, but if it is, did Obama make it better or worse?


It was more like he was the focal point.

He no doubt at times took advantage of the divisiveness in an obvious way.

You could argue that when he did genuinely attempt to make it better, it actually made it worse.
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:58 pm to
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The kind of loyal opposition and respectful disagreement that the original "LITERALLY HITLER" George W Bush received? Nonsense. This stuff started (at least in earnest, in the way we see things today) when Gore lost to Bush. 9/11 didn't cause it either, 9/11 just delayed it.



The vitriol toward W wasn’t really there pre-911. It really didn’t start in earnest until post Iraq when all the “war criminal” bs came about, and in large part closer to the 2008 election when McCain was labeled as having the third George W Bush term
Posted by Unclejimbo83
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:59 pm to
No it was a year and change later when the government planned 9/11
Posted by FreeState
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:12 pm to
Lee Atwater
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:24 pm to
Who counts the votes, electronic voting machines, and the way news/propoganda is delivered.
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