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re: Weren't we supposed to be on the moon again* by now?

Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2875 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

These are the things we have too much of nowadays…
- diversity
- equity
- inclusion
- corruption
- laziness
- greed
- democrats

Back then NASA had a fraction of the funding and technology, but they had the best and brightest people. In 2022 NASA would probably need 20 engineering contractors (Eskimo, Indian, Chinese, Black gay trans women owned companies will subcontract to competent firms). It would take 20 years and literally a thousand times more cost (even adjusted for inflation) for today’s government to put a man on the moon. Ever seen “Idiocracy”?


I agree.
And, if I may add, the average age of the mission control engineers for Apollo 11 was 26 years old. Those guys were young, hungry, and the best of the best
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 11:36 pm to
There is an Eskimo-Inuit run aerospace company in Huntsville
Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2483 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 11:50 pm to
Apollo missions would have been very advanced if they continued till today. it was not only very dangerous but expensive to send a payload into space. with SpaceX new rockets it will be a lot safer and cost less due to reusability.

the answer to your question is America basically killed the whole space program because the Soviet Union fell. years of research, human lives and engineering flushed down the toilet.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5031 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 12:18 am to
I forgot about this quote. Oh yeah we spent a shitload of time and money making this huge advancement in technology, then destroyed it just because.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9904 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:56 am to
"Just because" it's not practical.

They spent a decade sending people largely for show.

We still send people to space, the "technology" is more oxygen and radiation protection, but we know there's no advantage to sending people instead of unmanned flights (which happen regularly).
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27369 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:31 am to
How do you know that we are not already there?

We've never left. Read Behold a Pale Horse It will explain everything.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4718 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:35 am to
USA had a human walk on the moon with Commodore 64 60's technology about the same as Tomatocantender gave Dua Lipa an orgasm with my 6-inch pecker; e.g. Never happened.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98490 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:37 am to
Purpose of renewed moon missions was eventual establishment of a base for deeper space flight (lower gravity = less fuel for escape velocity = more fuel for space flight).

Problem is they have been unable to account for, or prevent, muscle wasting/atrophy and bone loss during space travel.

There's a reason astronauts have to be helped out of their capsules and are "quarantined" for so long. They can barely move. And this is just from "short" missions (the long termers on the ISS are wrecks when they get back to Earth).

Now...imagine the long arse flight to Mars and having to get out and explore when you get there.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27369 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:46 am to
You silly, silly person, we went to Mars 30 years ago. We have a colony there.....along with some aliens from Titan. We've figured out the gravity thing with the help of our alien " friends"
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17882 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:48 am to
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Problem is they have been unable to account for, or prevent, muscle wasting/atrophy and bone loss during space travel.

I honestly think this is why we've spent so much time doing low earth orbit research. We aren't the only things being in near 0 gravity affects.
quote:

Now...imagine the long arse flight to Mars and having to get out and explore when you get there.

Luckily the gravity there is 3/8 of ours. Gonna get dennis reynolds (always sunny) to teach them how to do hummingbirds
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:55 am to
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50 years ago America was purportedly sending people up the moon routinely.


Stopped reading right there.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:01 am to
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Purpose of renewed moon missions was eventual establishment of a base for deeper space flight (lower gravity = less fuel for escape velocity = more fuel for space flight).


From a practical, engineering standpoint, this doesn't make a lick of sense unless you're refining fuel on the Moon. The Moon is still orbiting Earth (and, indirectly, the Sun). The Moon isn't "on the way" to anywhere. You would spend way, way more fuel to do a TLI, landing and take off from your lower gravity Moonbase than it would be to just go where you're going to go (e.g. Mars) from Earth orbit.

The old adage holds true - once you're in Earth's orbit, you're halfway to anywhere.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
5901 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:04 am to
We only know about the "Civilian" Space program. There was and probably still is a Military space presence, or more specifically the CIA.

FOIA CIA
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20193 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:10 am to
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We aren't interested in sending humans to the moon anymore,


I gotta call BS on this!
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20193 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:14 am to
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the answer to your question is America basically killed the whole space program because the Soviet Union fell


This makes zero sense…if anything it highlights a motive to fake technological superiority to make this happen in the first place.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17882 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:17 am to
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You would spend way, way more fuel to do a TLI, landing and take off from your lower gravity Moonbase than it would be to just go where you're going to go (e.g. Mars) from Earth orbit.

I'm gonna have to ask if they're really planning on landing and then relaunching from the lunar surface. I had assumed they'd stay in lunar orbit and ferry back and forth with a 2020s megasized lunar descent module, but I'm not even gonna pretend I've actually done much reading beyond the first few artemis missions.
Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
2358 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:28 am to
The Moon???

Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
4945 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:31 am to
We shunt blacks into places that are bad fits for them academically, or where they get cashiered in departments and in pursuits that are of absolutely no use in the real world.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6526 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:31 am to
Our computers today are light years better than what NASA had in 1969 but we are still thwarted by basic plumbing problems.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
8049 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:33 am to
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Yeah but then we forgot how to math and Biden got elected.


Math is racist. But, apparently giving someone the wrong answer in space can get them killed.
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