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re: Were we wrong about Iran's strike on Israel?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:31 am to 632627
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:31 am to 632627
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Take all of this as a huge grain of salt from two guys that are anti Israel.
Why is it when someone is not rabidly pro-Israel, they are called anti-Israel, antisemitic.
Can someone not be neutral or form a fact based opinion without bias?
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:32 am to gothamdawg
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almost ensuring another generation of conflict for Israel.
TBH, Hamas being in power meant that was going to happen regardless.
Kids are brainwashed from birth to blame Israel if they stub their toe.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:34 am to rebeloke
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I do believe he is mistaken. Israel has a state of the art defense system. None of Irans missiles would have a chance, much less 70%. That is a joke.
https://english.mod.gov.il/About/Innovative_Strength/Pages/IMDO_Israel_Missile_Defense_Organization.aspx
Most incoming drones and missiles were intercepted by the US
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:35 am to teke184
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Kids are brainwashed from birth to blame Israel if they stub their toe.
Agreed.
But if you've ever been to Israel, you'd know brainwashing runs very deep in that country.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:37 am to Tantal
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Iran could target US facilities in the region
That would be the stupidest thing that they could do. We'll never put boots on the ground in Iran on a large scale, but we have the standoff capability to turn their entire petroleum infrastructure and every government building into rubble from a distance.
The US also has influence over Pakistan and only last month there was an exchange of missiles between Iran and Pakistan.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:41 am to 632627
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anti Israel
What does this even mean? Its essentially lost all meaning like the word 'racism' has lost all meaning because people throw it around so often. Simply criticizing Israel, not caring about Israel, not caring about Judaism, etc. isn't anti-Israel or antisemitic. People are allowed to not give two shits about Israel without being called names.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:52 am to POTUS2024
Not a single mention of the fact that Israel has hundreds of nuclear missiles.
It doesn't matter if Iran can get some through. Congratulations, you still have to hit your target and that target is going to be armored up so there's no room for error. So while they can get their whole military out to launch a few hundred missiles and drones at the same time, they can't disguise that. And while they're setting up, they're all vulnerable. And if this is about the threat of those handful that get through the shield, if they send WMD's then Israel holds all the Aces here, can and absolutely 100% would smoke them forever.
So I guess I'm left with two words to sum up the position.
So what?
It doesn't matter if Iran can get some through. Congratulations, you still have to hit your target and that target is going to be armored up so there's no room for error. So while they can get their whole military out to launch a few hundred missiles and drones at the same time, they can't disguise that. And while they're setting up, they're all vulnerable. And if this is about the threat of those handful that get through the shield, if they send WMD's then Israel holds all the Aces here, can and absolutely 100% would smoke them forever.
So I guess I'm left with two words to sum up the position.
So what?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:39 am to gothamdawg
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The US also has influence over Pakistan and only last month there was an exchange of missiles between Iran and Pakistan.
Pakistan is increasingly aligning with Saudi Arabia too. Iran is increasingly isolating itself with their shenanigans.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:26 pm to Tantal
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Ritter
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:27 pm to Bayou
Is this one just not pretending to be a fig, unlike how John did?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:50 pm to POTUS2024
How DARE you, you TREASONOUS anti-American LIAR!
The TROPHY has been awarded and ALREADY placed in the TROPHY CASE!
ANY narrative that does not confirm that Joe Biden is preemptive WWWIII CHAMP for his masterful handling of the war in both the Middle East and Eastern Europe is rUsSiAn pRoPagAnDa!
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:55 pm to teke184
After Cronkite turned it into a Viet Cong Military success.
Viet Generals concurred that after losing 50,000 casualties ......they could not win the war ......Until Cronkite shot his mouth and state we had just lost.
Viet Generals concurred that after losing 50,000 casualties ......they could not win the war ......Until Cronkite shot his mouth and state we had just lost.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:01 pm to gothamdawg
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Can someone not be neutral or form a fact based opinion without bias?
NO! NEVER!
If you don’t reflexively PRAISE Israel’s strike on a diplomatic compound in a sovereign nation, it is tantamount to supporting the Auschwitz extermination camp!
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:04 pm to POTUS2024
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Ritter said the back story to Trump's refusal to go after Iran during his term was different than what people think. He said that Trump wanted to go after Iran for shooting down our drone. Ritter said the Pentagon told Trump about the inability to stop these newest missiles and that strikes on Iran would bring strikes against US troops in the region, with no way to defend themselves, so Trump backed down.
Bolton says Trump nixed the attack when the Pentagon said 150 innocent civilians would be killed, and DJT wasn't willing to hurt innocent people over a drone.
Bolton seriously thought that made DJT look bad.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:06 pm to POTUS2024
lol. Israeli air defense, aided by the U.S. intercepted 90 per cent of Iran’s
Strike.iran didn’t penetrate dick to any great effect.
Strike.iran didn’t penetrate dick to any great effect.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:36 pm to POTUS2024
The alternate, and more useful information is in the data collected from all of the engagements. Now Israel and the U.S. have intelligence on how to further prevent escalated measures in the future.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:00 pm to VOR
Brookings is still working on their assessment. Israel has just announced that three missiles reached the airbase, not four. One hit the end of a runway, one hit an open field and one hit a building under construction. All reported as Ballistic Missiles .....Laughable because the air base in question has F-35's at the base. Iran was supposedly practicing assaulting a model of that same base several weeks ago, using Missiles. Surprise .....the C-130 is still flying.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:01 pm to POTUS2024
I think whatcha was going at is that it was a success because it sets a “deterrent” factor for the future. Basically saying we can do this whenever we want.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:16 pm to POTUS2024
If a murder takes a shot at your family, what do you do?
Wait for him to shoot again or take him out?
I know what I’d do.
Wait for him to shoot again or take him out?
I know what I’d do.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:19 pm to Stumpknocker
I agree stump all isn’t forgiven because they missed or weren’t successful. They still took the shot and should be treated as a hostile until incapacitated
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