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re: We’re all about to buy $2.8 billion of bombs for Israel!
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:41 pm to Kcrad
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:41 pm to Kcrad
quote:
The hardware purchase is paid via loan. Like every loan, Israel pays it back with interest. This is nothing new.
I don't know of any other loan where the lender provides both the cash and the product for which the loan is given to purchase. I am aware that we have given Israel weapons many times, and they've paid us back, but I've never heard of giving them money to buy the weapons. Why not just give them the weapons, and then let them pay it off? The weapons, themselves, should be the loan.
This post was edited on 9/15/26 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:41 pm to boosiebadazz
Well, it does say sale.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:41 pm to FLTech
quote:
You are a fricking idiot
straight up roasted!
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:43 pm to KCT
Here it is direct from the Israel Policy Institute, a pro-Israel group:
And the corroborating LINK
Do you know what a grant is, little angry man?
quote:
Most U.S. security assistance to Israel falls under the Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program.
Israel is a recipient of U.S. FMF, which functions as a grant that a foreign country then must use to purchase weapons and other military platforms manufactured in the United States.
And the corroborating LINK
Do you know what a grant is, little angry man?
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:56 pm to boosiebadazz
I see, the article is behind a paywall. You could just add the info to the OP instead of being a douche about it.
If this "sale" goes through its Israel buying them with the military aid we already give. That's all you had to say.
What we need to do is get rid of military grants to Israel. So everyone needs to take these steps.
Contact your House representative and both senators. Tell them specifically you want U.S. Foreign Military Financing grants to Israel eliminated or phased out, while preserving Israel's ability to purchase U.S. weapons with its own money.
Ask how they voted on the FY2026 Israel-aid appropriations. There was already a House attempt to remove the $3.3 billion in annual military assistance.
Pay attention to the FY2027 appropriations process. That's where Congress can actually decide whether to appropriate additional FMF.
Make it an issue in primaries and general elections. Ask candidates a very simple question: “Would you vote to continue taxpayer-funded military grants to Israel, or would you require Israel to purchase American weapons with its own money?” Then vote based on their answer and your other priorities.
Don't limit the question to Israel if your actual principle is broader. If you believe foreign countries generally should pay for their own wars, tell candidates that. That makes the position about U.S. foreign-aid policy, rather than about Israel specifically.
If this "sale" goes through its Israel buying them with the military aid we already give. That's all you had to say.
What we need to do is get rid of military grants to Israel. So everyone needs to take these steps.
Contact your House representative and both senators. Tell them specifically you want U.S. Foreign Military Financing grants to Israel eliminated or phased out, while preserving Israel's ability to purchase U.S. weapons with its own money.
Ask how they voted on the FY2026 Israel-aid appropriations. There was already a House attempt to remove the $3.3 billion in annual military assistance.
Pay attention to the FY2027 appropriations process. That's where Congress can actually decide whether to appropriate additional FMF.
Make it an issue in primaries and general elections. Ask candidates a very simple question: “Would you vote to continue taxpayer-funded military grants to Israel, or would you require Israel to purchase American weapons with its own money?” Then vote based on their answer and your other priorities.
Don't limit the question to Israel if your actual principle is broader. If you believe foreign countries generally should pay for their own wars, tell candidates that. That makes the position about U.S. foreign-aid policy, rather than about Israel specifically.
This post was edited on 9/15/26 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:57 pm to boosiebadazz
I'm surprised to see you make a thread that doesn't have something to do with Hunter Biden. I mean, this one sucks and is stupid too, but this is progress.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:58 pm to boosiebadazz
As long as we don't give them back to Israel or ship them to Ukraine.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:58 pm to boosiebadazz
Sale
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:59 pm to boosiebadazz
Better than spending more than that to the illegal Somalis
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:04 pm to boosiebadazz
It’s a shame that Trump is giving 2.8 billion dollars worth of bombs to Israel when we have so many American cities that they could be better used on
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:08 pm to boosiebadazz
I went to Congress.Gov & it's a mess to say the least. Not nearly as bad as Google that basically admonished me about even thinking it was a loan.
Here's a link to Foreign Aid to Israel on Congress.Gov. Unfortunately, the appropriate hotlink leads to the entire HR1968. If you want to pour over all of that, be my guest.
HR 1968
This is the link to my previous quote Foreign aid to Israel 2023
quote:
Section 11208(c) reauthorizes loan guarantees to Israel through 2030; and Section 11208(d) reauthorizes annual monetary caps for U.S. additions to the War Reserve Stockpile for Allies program, including the stockpile in Israel, through FY2027 (at $500 million per year). P.L. 119-4 did not include an accompanying explanatory statement specifying defense funding allocations at the line-item level.
Here's a link to Foreign Aid to Israel on Congress.Gov. Unfortunately, the appropriate hotlink leads to the entire HR1968. If you want to pour over all of that, be my guest.
HR 1968
This is the link to my previous quote Foreign aid to Israel 2023
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:10 pm to boosiebadazz
Everything comes full circle.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:15 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
You need to read it
I don't have X and Wapo is a paywall...how about you link it where I can read it.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:26 pm to Obtuse1
quote:That's fricking disgusting.
Though described as a sale, the transaction is financed through a mechanism known as Foreign Military Financing, in which the United States provides the money that Israel uses to buy the weapons.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:28 pm to Metaloctopus
quote:Intentionally deceptive header, so the average headline-scanning person thinks Israel paid us.
That's incoherent terminology by whoever wrote that up.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:31 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
I don’t know how I feel about it to be honest. I’m down for degrading US enemies through proxies. I’d maybe like to see this 2.8 split into 1.4 for Israel and 1.4 for Ukraine
Pretty sure we’re Israel’s proxy otherwise they would be the ones doing all the dirty work.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:32 pm to boosiebadazz
Oh no not selling bombs to make 2.8bil
Whatever will we do
Whatever will we do
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:35 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
Do you know what a grant is, little angry man?
1) I'm 6' 3" so not too little.
2) I'm the farthest thing from angry, but after a decade of watching the corrupt political system try to destroy a true outsider in multiple ways I have lost my patience with people who still act like they've completely missed the entire "adventure."
3) My favorite Grant is Hugh Grant, although that's mostly because the only other Grant I know is Ulysses S., and I'm not too fond of him. (Hugh Grant is surprisingly very funny, though, although most Englishmen are funny. He has terrible taste in hookers, though).
PS - Who are you taking between LSU and Ole Miss?
Posted on 9/15/26 at 5:40 pm to boosiebadazz
Sounds like a good time! Im looking forward to seeing the results!!
Islam is fricking evil virus and needs to be eliminated
Islam is fricking evil virus and needs to be eliminated
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