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re: We now have the dissent of Justice Samuel Alito, joined by Justice Clarence Thomas

Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:21 am to
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12350 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:21 am to
It is a waste of money. It shouldn’t be happening. Seems like an intentional test scenario.

Pick an obviously undesirable character as the guinea pig. Easier to manage public opinion when it’s not a high profile politician or businessman or celebrity.

The test is to prove whether the American people, or Congress, will care enough if the Executive branch Signals that they will not even attempt to abide by the Supreme Court.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:23 am to
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You are acting like there isn’t a crisis currently happening. But it is.


The only crisis is in the mind of those who don’t like Trump.

Was it a crisis when Biden’s student loan plan was shot down by the Supreme Court and he went ahead and forgave a bunch of student loans anyway (illegally)?

You didn’t even notice. So I’m guessing you didn’t think it was a crisis.

Crises are not dictated by the ephemeral emotions of pussies.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19993 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:23 am to
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The test is to prove whether the American people, or Congress, will care enough if the Executive branch Signals that they will not even attempt to abide by the Supreme Court.


Yep

He shouldn't
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15718 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:26 am to
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The test is to prove whether the American people, or Congress, will care enough if the Executive branch Signals that they will not even attempt to abide by the Supreme Court.


What’s next? You want SCOTUS to order the President to bribe a foreign government or order the president to engage in military action against a foreign government?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28167 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:27 am to
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Signals that they will not even attempt to abide by the Supreme Court.


USSC said facilitate, not bribe.

Facilitate means to make something easier.

We wont refuse him at the border once El Salvador decides it wants to send him back (that's making the process easier).

There is not a single ounce of effort needed beyond that to comply with the USSC ruling.

Unless El Salvador tries to send him back and we refuse to take him, then the USSC ruling isn't being ignored.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12350 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:30 am to
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Forgive me, but are you debating in good faith here? Your posts come off as a little bit sarcastic.


I actually am. I appreciate the question.

Maybe my tone came off as sarcastic because It’s frustrating to have explain why we should care about upholding the Supreme Court and the Constitution.

And I do feel like a lot of response posts on this board are not arguing in good faith.

At the end of the day, my primary concern is the integrity of our political institutions, so that things don’t evolve even worse in the future, currently and even beyond this presidential term.

Congress has got to get off their arse either way.
Posted by FriedEggBowL
MS
Member since Nov 2021
1514 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:31 am to
Heritage Foundation judges have been shite for 30 years. Should NEVER appoint another of their recommended judges. Trump needs to do his own judge vetting. Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett, Roberts. All Heritage Foundation recommendations. They have flawed thinking
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:32 am to
Correct. The Federalist Society sits in the cuck chair. The next recommendation that they make for the USSC should be burnt in front of their faces and then handed back to them.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6348 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:35 am to
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You are not an attorney!


Neither is he
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28167 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:38 am to
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because It’s frustrating to have explain why we should care about upholding the Supreme Court and the Constitution.


This shows you're not arguing in good faith as many posters here have told you that the Trump admin is upholding the USSC ruling and is willing to receive this illegal back if El Salvador is willing to release him.

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At the end of the day, my primary concern is the integrity of our political institutions,


Where was your concern over sanctuary cities/states?
This post was edited on 4/20/25 at 11:40 am
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12350 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:41 am to
I have no problem being critical of Biden. The Supreme Court struck down the program.

LINK

I can have two thoughts at the same time.

quote:

Nebraska Attorney General Mike Hilgers, one of the state officials who brought the challenge to the program, praised the decision. In a statement, Hilgers said that Friday’s decision “is a timely reminder that the President is no king” but must instead “work with, and not around, Congress.” “Our elected federal representatives are closest to the people, have the power of the purse, and are entrusted with the responsibility of tackling difficult policy issues.”
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12350 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:42 am to
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Where was your concern over sanctuary cities/states?


I actually applauded Gov. Abbott shipping illegals to sanctuary cities for them to deal with.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:46 am to
And then Biden forgave a bunch for student loans illegally anyway.

You skipped that part.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14229 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:50 am to
Why would I read them, the rest of the court didnt give a frick about them
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12350 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:53 am to

LINK



At least the illegality has been addressed.

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“We are pleased with the court’s decision and that this enormous fiscal damage has been stopped,” said Patrick Wright, vice president of legal affairs at the Mackinac Center for Public Policy. “But this whole brazen forgiveness scheme to circumvent Congress in order to give $188 billion to politically favored voters was shameful and worthy of congressional investigation.” The decision reinforces the constitutional principle that only Congress has the power of the purse, preventing the executive branch from unilaterally forgiving billions in debt at taxpayer expense.
This post was edited on 4/20/25 at 11:54 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28167 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:53 am to
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I actually applauded Gov. Abbott shipping illegals to sanctuary cities for them to deal with.


That's not the question.

For the last decade or so, cities and states have publicly announced they're ignoring federal law and not complying with ICE to shelter illegals from deportation.

Surely you see that as an infinitely larger issue than this one illegal MS13 gang member? Seeing as we're talking about tens of millions of instances verses a single one...
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12350 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:54 am to
Yes I do see that as a larger issue ….
Regarding immigration.

And I see the larger constitutional issue is related to the Supreme Court.
This post was edited on 4/20/25 at 11:58 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28167 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:55 am to
An infinitely larger issue. Yet here you are, wasting your time about a single instance that's beyond America's jurisdiction.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10824 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:56 am to
We have, at best, only 2 competent justices on the Supreme Court out of 9. The 3 liberal justices are a lost cause. The other 4 are unreliable and can be swayed by activists or other irrelevant considerations. A very scary and sobering thought.

Trump must do a better job vetting justices if he has the chance to make additional appointments.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12350 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:59 am to
The largest issue is a constitutional question, not an immigration question.

This thread is about a constitutional issue, not just an immigration issue.
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