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re: We just became the bad guys.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:46 pm to BugAC
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:46 pm to BugAC
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Do i think this administration has a lot to lose if the current Ukrainian regime is ousted and a Russian friendly is installed as head? Also yes.
I think this should get more play (unrelated to Biden/Hunter/Biolabs) because it's the more likely and typical motivation for the US screwing around and making bad decisions that burn us in the long term.
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:46 pm to Pettifogger
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Maybe someone will establish that this is really some Wolfenstein thing but until then it seems a little dramatic
Considering everything you've learned about Hunter Biden, Ukraine, Fauci, and Wuhan...
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:47 pm to cokebottleag
I didn't build that, just ask Obama.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:48 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Ah. It's amazing how the board has all of a sudden become concerned with collateral damage of 3rd world peasants. There's been years and years of love and mad props for the drone war.
hitting the car in Afghanistan
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:48 pm to Pettifogger
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Wolfenstein thing
Nice.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:49 pm to BugAC
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Considering everything you've learned about Hunter Biden, Ukraine, Fauci, and Wuhan...
My real honest opinion is that the US probably does this all over the globe and it borders the line between security stuff and good faith scientific research, both of which we've shown a willingness to corrupt/manipulate/etc. to the ends of those in power.
Whether or not there is anything like that in Ukraine we're especially concerned about, I have no idea, but I also see no reason to think there is. I think it's very plausible that the US would want to keep research/development stuff it works on with Ukraine - tech, communicable diseases, military - out of the hands of an invading force. And I don't think there is necessarily anything nefarious about it.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:49 pm to Lou Pai
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Any other evidence available?
Undersecretary of State just gave Senate testimony the other day affirming as much.
Did they not address this on Kim K's Insta?
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:49 pm to idlewatcher
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They found our bioweapon stash
It was pretty stupid to have it right next door to Russia honestly.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:50 pm to Pettifogger
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My real honest opinion is that the US probably does this all over the globe and it borders the line between security stuff and good faith scientific research, both of which we've shown a willingness to corrupt/manipulate/etc. to the ends of those in power.
Whether or not there is anything like that in Ukraine we're especially concerned about, I have no idea, but I also see no reason to think there is. I think it's very plausible that the US would want to keep research/development stuff it works on with Ukraine - tech, communicable diseases, military - out of the hands of an invading force. And I don't think there is necessarily anything nefarious about it.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:51 pm to Beauw
Or strategic to have weapons placed there if we ever went to war with them.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:51 pm to Pettifogger
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I think this should get more play (unrelated to Biden/Hunter/Biolabs) because it's the more likely and typical motivation for the US screwing around and making bad decisions that burn us in the long term.
But if this is the case, how could it possibly be "unrelated" to those things or vice versa?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:51 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Ah. It's amazing how the board has all of a sudden become concerned with collateral damage of 3rd world peasants. There's been years and years of love and mad props for the drone war.
Obama got heat for it, but sure, we're selective.
The Afghanistan debacle was a bad one though. There wasn't a target among the victims and they were moving water jugs as I recall. It was criminal-level negligence. And then even when the facts were coming out, the administration lied to us because they didn't want to pile another L onto the disaster.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:53 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Ah. It's amazing how the board has all of a sudden become concerned with collateral damage of 3rd world peasants. There's been years and years of love and mad props for the drone war.
So fricking lazy.
Muh, the board!
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:53 pm to bayoudude
Yeah, thats true too...
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:54 pm to Godfather1
the bio lab in china that killed millions of people was funded also by the us. Should not rational leadership have shut that down after the covid outbreak
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:54 pm to ksayetiger
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Hate to ruin your thread title but we have been the bad guys for decades
Say probably started around the 1950's. We decided we were going to rule the world.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:54 pm to Pettifogger
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I think it's very plausible that the US would want to keep research/development stuff it works on with Ukraine - tech, communicable diseases, military - out of the hands of an invading force. And I don't think there is necessarily anything nefarious about it.
After watching everything this administration has done since taking office, I have no reason to believe there isn't nefarious motives to everything they do.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:55 pm to cokebottleag
Ummm, we been the bad guys fam.
Believe or not, afghan and iraq didnt want to be invades.
Most 9/11 plotters were Saudi’s, so that excuse is out the window.
There were no wmd’s
2 decades. Hundreds of thousands of lives, trillions of dollars.
Believe or not, afghan and iraq didnt want to be invades.
Most 9/11 plotters were Saudi’s, so that excuse is out the window.
There were no wmd’s
2 decades. Hundreds of thousands of lives, trillions of dollars.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:56 pm to Champagne
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No wonder why the Deep State freaked out when Russia invaded
It had to be some combination of this and dirty money. They certainly DGAF about white folks killing white folks.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:56 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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But if this is the case, how could it possibly be "unrelated" to those things or vice versa?
All I'm saying is that the US clearly wants a controllable or at least friendly government in Ukraine rather than a Russian-influenced one. Which is obvious I know. But historically that alone is plenty of justification for US propaganda or manipulation - it usually hasn't been motivated on covering tracks of individual scandals.
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