re: We funded Ho Chi Minh before Vietnam, we funded bin Laden before 9/11

You missed one, we’re buddies with the Syrian opposition, because Assad didnt bend the knee to DC and the MIC.

As predicted, Syria is a mess. Syrian Christians are being persecuted. On another note, we probably won’t hear about that in the messaging from the Evangelicals here at home. They’re too busy doing the bidding for AIPAC

We also funded Sadum Hussein

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sometimes these decisions worked out well. sometimes they didnt.

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bullshite, it always works out well for the m’fers that run the war machine no matter how many people die. $$$$$$$. No wars, no money. Why do you think they are trying to “Butler PA” Trump?

haha dude you are literally just making shite up with absolutely no way of knowing how any of that would have gone. in the 40s France was one of our biggest allies, and we had just saved them from the Nazis. do you think that it was completely reasonable to suddenly go against them in support of an absolutely meaningless, nothing country that 99.9% of Americans had never even heard of? we were neutral for the first half of the war anyways, so what were we supposed to do instead, then go to war against France to stop them from trying to recolonize Vietnam? provide miltiary support to Ho Chi Minh in his war against them? we know now that Ho was much more of a nationalist than a communist, and that he really only allied himself with the communists in order to receive their support, but we didnt know that then. the entire communist world was believed to be consolidated and acting all together.

so please tell us exactly what we should have done, in your opinion.

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BS. It did NOT look that way in 1982. Soviets had a much larger Navy than we did. They were still in expansionist mode. They were making progress in their nuclear capabilities. They were on the prowl in Latin America with the help of Castro. El Salvador and Nicaragua ring a bell? The cracks you see now in Hindsight were not evident back then.

The crap about funding OBL is just that, crap.

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The Saudi's were matching us dollar for dollar, both money streams going through the Paki's. So there is no 'us' and 'Saudis', it is one in the same.

The real issue was that the Paki's played favorites, based on favorites, but claimed to be based on effectiveness. There were 7 main groups. The problem came down to tribes/ethnics. The Paki's favored Pashtun tribes, that were also logistically easier (and thus more effective) because they straddled the border. The ones that got the least amount of funding were the Uzbeks/Tajiks/Kyrgz. Which means the Lion of the Panjir, Massoud, who was very effective and closer to where it hurt the Bear the most but incredibly hard to supply. This became the Northern Alliance.

OBL was working for/with the biggest and best funded Pashtun group, the Hekmatyar Network. Which as the name implies, was a loose group. So while he wasn't really on his own, AQ was at the same time not integrated into the HK.

It was the HK we feared the most partly because they were automatic US haters, but influence coming from the gulf states, including the Saudis, were setting them up to be fully anti-American after the Soviet pullout. And that is exactly what happened.

This is why I want foreign aid to be zero. Zip. Nada.

Wait till you realize those weapons of mass destruction Saddam had were given to him by Bush sr when he was sec of state

Every Luke Skywalker needs a Darth Vader.

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You think we should have seized France and divided it with the British?! Put down the crack

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I think we should’ve rolled all the way to Moscow.

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when Saddam Hussein's statue came down GW pleased poppy.

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First Persian Gulf war … Kuwait was using a technique called directional drilling or “ slant drilling “ . Basically he was sucking out Iraqi oil . Saddam caught them and wanted either payment for his oil or his oil returned . Kuwait told him to eff off .
So , Saddam sent a letter thru the ambassador to Bush the elder , basically stating we have a problem with Kuwait and are thinking of taking military action and we want to know what the United States response will be . The United States sent back a letter stating that we would have to publicly denounce this action but would consider it an Arab Arab issue and would not get militarily involved . So Saddam invaded , and the rest is history
Except why would Bush lie about not taking military action
The answer is Bush is a Bonesman ( a member of the skull and bones while at Yale )
Among the skull and bones beliefs : a country needs to go to war every twenty to thirty years to rally people behind the flag and restore national pride .
Once Saddam invaded … he fell into the George Bush trap. A war we could win quickly and decisively. Even had the daughter of an ambassador to Kuwait go to a public relations school so that she could testify falsely about Iraqi soldiers stealing incubators and throwing Kuwaiti babies on the cold floor . The you tube video of the Kuwaiti incubator bullshite is available for all to watch