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re: ‘We Are 10 Days Away From Our Hospitals Getting Creamed’
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:41 pm to The Maj
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:41 pm to The Maj
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22 million people in the U.S. were infected with H1N1..
I had no idea it was this high. And at the time, I worked in a pulmonary clinic in Boston. When I asked about vaccination at the time, was told I was young and healthy and didn't need it. Save it for those who are vulnerable.
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Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:41 pm to longwayfromLA
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Alternatively, we can just do nothing because this is just the flu...
Deal
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:43 pm to the808bass
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They have a total of 660 critical care beds in the region affected with 16 million citizens?
Maybe.
ETA: St. Louis has 10% more capacity (not counting LTACs) with a much smaller geography and 13.5M fewer people.
This isn't wrong. Italy short on ICU beds as compared to us. But's let's take St. Louis since you offered it. 660 ICU beds, probably 70% occupied or greater since this is flu season. Depending on if you're talking metro area or not, you have a 150-200K people over the age of 65 in that area. Is it that hard to imagine those 660 ICU beds won't stretch if that city has an outbreak?
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:43 pm to longwayfromLA
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Per Tom Bossert, Trump's former homeland security advisor
Sounds like a]this former employee, and now ABC news 'consultant' has a grievance against Trump
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On April 10, 2018, Bossert resigned. Bossert's departure corresponded with the dissolution of the global health security team that he oversaw
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:43 pm to longwayfromLA
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Re-read what he wrote. He's talking about reaching 1% in any one area, not necessarily 1% across the country. Absent intervention, that could very much happen and right now we are not aggressively intervening.
Ok, but in 10 days? Which community is set up for that? How many communities have a 1% infection rate with the flu (given that it infects about 10% of Americans per season and has the same mortality rate that COVID-19 is expected to have)?
It may be very infectious, but it is not proving to be as deadly as everyone claims. More fear mongering and trying to panic the public.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:44 pm to Stingy
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I don't believe that.
On December 10, 2009, the CDC reported an estimated 50 million Americans or 1 in 6 people had been infected with the 2009 A H1N1 Virus and 10,000 Americans had died, by which time the vaccine was beginning to be widely distributed to the general public by several states.
On October 24, 2009, President Barack Obama declared Swine Flu a national emergency in the United States. On November 12, 2009, the CDC reported an estimated 22 million Americans had been infected with 2009 A H1N1 and 4,000 Americans have died.
Pick between 50 and 22 million then...
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:44 pm to longwayfromLA
So March 20th, mark it down people. If it's true, then... still be cautious?
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:46 pm to Godfather1
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And if it gets worse, THEN go to a hospital.
The point is it's spreading at a rate far faster than any flu bug we've seen. In addition, it is not the typical flu to pneumonia we see in health care which, is a superimposed bacterial lobar pneumonia colonized by Staph species
COVID pneumonia has a much swifter course and usually presents on admission as a bilateral interstitial pneumonia. Point is you don't just have pneumonia when you first get diagnosed with the flu like you are now seeing with COVID
I agree we should not send America into hysterics but, if we don't have plans to prevent gatherings of large people, then this will spread like wildfire and will have far reaching implications for people's health and finances
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:46 pm to longwayfromLA
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Is it that hard to imagine those 660 ICU beds won't stretch if that city has an outbreak?
They’ll absolutely stretch with a full-fledged outbreak. LTAC overflow could provide a 10%-20% increase in total capacity.
It would totally strain the system. It wouldn’t break the system, especially in a two-three month timeframe.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:46 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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There's an empty lot across from my house.
I'll recommend the HOA use that for the designated "burn site" for all of the bodies from our hood. Just pile them up Walking Dead style and light a bonfire.
I already saw a few folks collapsing in their yards on my way to the gym earlier.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:47 pm to The Maj
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Well, I am quite certain you are a legit alter OR one of these overly concerned folks that have been awakened from a coma because of this virus...
This board is repetitive and lame on the subject of everyday politics. I find the healthcare conversations fascinating cause I know that world. Just vast the divergence between what I hear in the briefings we get at my job and what people here seem to believe is fascinating to me. I probably should be working....
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:49 pm to longwayfromLA
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I probably should be working....
We all wish you would go back to work. Your cheerleading for death is tiresome and boring
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:50 pm to longwayfromLA
You don’t have access to some gnostic secrets in your hospital meetings. Some people are predisposed to shite their pants. Others aren’t.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:50 pm to longwayfromLA
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This board is repetitive and lame on the subject of everyday politics.
So, you just pop in and out for the virus talks? Gotcha… 2017 to 2020 absence seems like a long time to just lurk...
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:51 pm to Macavity92
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It may be very infectious, but it is not proving to be as deadly as everyone claims
The fact it is extremely infectious is why people should take this seriously. It has far reaching implications for every American if the health care system becomes overwhelmed by patients with this virus. It will affect the economy no matter how much of a "hoax" you think this is
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:52 pm to ItNeverRains
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He should have prefaced it pertained to the 99+ percentile who don’t require it. Let me apologize in advance for his careless post
Except it's not 99th percentile. The figures I've seen say it's about 5% end up in ICU. That adds up after awhile since we generally don't have spare ICU capacity lying around.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:52 pm to longwayfromLA
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Alternatively, we can just do nothing because this is just the flu...
Or we could find some middle ground, because this isn't the second coming of Yellow Fever or the Plague or the Spanish Flu like the media is making it out to be.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:53 pm to SSpaniel
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Or we could find some middle ground,
Oh frick that shite... Orange Man is Baddddddddd and has to go...
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:54 pm to longwayfromLA
Is a mechanical ventilator any different from an air compressor ,attached to a regulator and airway?
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:56 pm to longwayfromLA
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I find the healthcare conversations fascinating cause I know that world
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