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Watched Rambo III - why was Russia interested in Afghanistan?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:11 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:11 am
I know it was a little bit of cold war proxy war. I assume US aided just to stick it to Russia.
Also assuming somehow Russia interest was oil. I just don't know story.
Funny at end movie was dedicated to Afghanistan people. How times change
Also assuming somehow Russia interest was oil. I just don't know story.
Funny at end movie was dedicated to Afghanistan people. How times change
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 8:12 am
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:12 am to thelawnwranglers
Opium?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:16 am to thelawnwranglers
Short answer is there was a commie revolution in Afghanistan in 1978. There was an insurgency against the new commie rulers. Soviets invade in 1979 to support Afghan commie government. I’m sure, as it is with such things, there are multiple, more complicated reasons.
The Soviet defeat by 1988 contributes to the saying “Afghanistan is where empires go to die.” The Brits lost, the Soviets lost, and we lost.
The Soviet defeat by 1988 contributes to the saying “Afghanistan is where empires go to die.” The Brits lost, the Soviets lost, and we lost.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 8:26 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:17 am to thelawnwranglers
well over 50 countries boycotted the Summer Olympics in 1980 due to the Soviets invading Afghanistan.
Tom Hanks did a pretty good movie of the US involvement in the war, Charlie Wilson's War.
Tom Hanks did a pretty good movie of the US involvement in the war, Charlie Wilson's War.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:18 am to thelawnwranglers
In real life? I think Russia and Afghanistan's relation was a result of the ending of WWII. When the US leaves Afghanistan, Russia will probably have a stronger presence there.
Russia hates the United States because of the whole Soviet Union thing, but to answer your question why does anyone have interest in Afghanistan? Mineral fields.. Oil, gold, etc, etc.
Russia hates the United States because of the whole Soviet Union thing, but to answer your question why does anyone have interest in Afghanistan? Mineral fields.. Oil, gold, etc, etc.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:23 am to thelawnwranglers
It's just south of many post-Soviet states I believe. May be tied to that.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:25 am to TheFonz
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Short answer is there was a commie revolution in Afghanistan in 1978. There was an insurgency against the new commie rulers. Soviets invade in 1979 to support Afghan commie government. I’m sure there are multiple reasons though.
This and the opposition to the Communist government in Kabul, took the form of Jihadist Islam. The Soviets were always fearful that this contagion could spread into the Central Asian and Muslim populations in Russia. Remember this was the time when Islamic fundamentalism was replacing nationalist movements in the greater Middle East.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:27 am to thelawnwranglers
Russian interest in Central Asia goes back further than that.
Look up the Great Game between the Russian empire and the British empire. There were fights over Afghanistan back in the 19th century.
Look up the Great Game between the Russian empire and the British empire. There were fights over Afghanistan back in the 19th century.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 8:47 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:29 am to TheFonz
quote:Which was started and funded by the Soviets. The question is why?
Short answer is there was a commie revolution in Afghanistan in 1978.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:36 am to TigerintheNO
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Tom Hanks did a pretty good movie of the US involvement in the war, Charlie Wilson's War.
I thought that movie was about Emily Blunt’s arse?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:38 am to Gravitiger
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Which was started and funded by the Soviets. The question is why?
Look at the map
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:39 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:I mean who doesn't like a Central Asia ho?
Russian interest in Central Asia hoes
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 8:51 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:39 am to thelawnwranglers
Think of Afghanistan as if it were a toll booth. You want nice older folks running it so things run smoothly. Instead, you have a wild lawless ever changing bunch of tribes running it. So you try to come in and force change. The dirt is stained red with the blood of the civilizations who have given it a whirl.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:41 am to Sao
quote:?
Look at the map
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:43 am to TheFonz
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The Soviet defeat by 1988 contributes to the saying “Afghanistan is where empires go to die.” The Brits lost, the Soviets lost, and we lost.
Only because total war wasn't engaged, killing and destroying everything.
ETA: like there's anything in Afghanistan worth destroying.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 8:49 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:44 am to Gravitiger
The map. As in, proximity to now former Soviet states.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:45 am to Sao
quote:Why did they wait until 1979 then?
The map. As in, proximity to now former Soviet states.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:46 am to VinegarStrokes
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Emily Blunt’s arse?
That MFer is world-class.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:55 am to TheFonz
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Short answer is there was a commie revolution in Afghanistan in 1978. There was an insurgency against the new commie rulers. Soviets invade in 1979 to support Afghan commie government. I’m sure, as it is with such things, there are multiple, more complicated reasons.
Yes, and that complicating reason was the fact the insurgency was Islamic. Afghanistan was on the border of the Soviet Union, and directly abutting numerous Soviet Socialist States with heavy Muslim populations. Take a look at this map:
Notice all the the states with names ending in “Stan”. What the Soviets feared most from Afghanistan was the Islamic uprising there spreading into their own Muslim territories.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:55 am to thelawnwranglers
Simply to expand the Soviet empire
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