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re: Was slavery an important factor in the Civil War?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:26 pm to WorkinDawg
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:26 pm to WorkinDawg
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If we had a coal based economy, and the North wanted to outlaw our ability to mine, use, and sell coal, then EVERY single CSA article of Secession would've said "coal"....see how this works?
No. I don’t.
The south was predominantly an agrarian economy built upon a caste system where enslaved human chattel was the lowest rung, which the democrat party fought to maintain.
That is factual history. You can come up with your fantasy sports history any which way you wish, but I don’t dabble in that. It’s a waste of time. History is history and facts are facts. They are not subject to feelings, what ifs or fantasy revision.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:29 pm to sabes que
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Can people on this board not see how this is problematic?
I find it problematic that you evidently think the Civil Rights Movement is from the late 19th century.
In regards to this theory being parroted by academics ( who rarely, if ever have given examples supporting this theory)and then repeated by lazy amplifiers such as yourself, it should be noted that many of these monuments were from remaining veterans , who in the twilight of their lives, sought to finally give many of these dead men a symbol of remembrance. You should understand that a great many of the Confederate dead never made it back to their home states, much less their home towns. A great many were placed on top of one another in mass unmarked graves, often many states away from their homes, while the more unlucky ones were left to rot above ground . These memorials are the only marker or recognition their families ever had to remember them. To say these were constructed in some well connected diabolical plot to "put the black man in his place" is just ludicrous if one puts the least bit of research into this.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:45 pm to Toddy
I said the civil rights and Jim Crow. Monuments being built as you said in the 1920s would be during Jim Crow, also some of the monuments are in states that weren’t even part of the Confederacy.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:56 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
quote:frick you.
There's nothing wrong with building statues to honor the brave and noble men who declared war against our country and killed our soldiers.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:59 pm to sabes que
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Did the Confederacy want to keep slavery legal? If so, how can one not see the problem with having a statue celebrating someone that fought for this cause? Also most of these statues were not built right after the war, but rather later during the Civil Rights movement and Jim Crowe in order to send a message that their was a status quo that was going to be maintained. Can people on this board not see how this is problematic?
Are you a Democrat, why do you want the rest of us to deal with your racist evil past?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:06 pm to GumboPot
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Yes. But the north should have forced the issue with carrot rather than the stick. The stick left too many scars.
Im sorry, the North did not form the Confederacy, the Southern Democrats did, and hell some of them did it before Lincoln was even sworn in.
Democrats, as we now know is just their nature, lost their fricking minds because they lost a fricking election.
To blame the North or Abraham Lincoln for the Civil war is such total fricking bullshite, its ridiculous.
Democrats then, Democrats now, that's the fricking problem
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:06 pm to sabes que
“The Union government liberates the enemy’s slaves as it would the enemy’s cattle, simply to weaken them in the conflict. The principle is not that a human being cannot justly own another, but that he cannot own him unless he is loyal to the United States.”
London Spectator in reference to the Emancipation Proclamation
London Spectator in reference to the Emancipation Proclamation
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:08 pm to More&Les
No I am not, but again, it’s disingenuous to try to equate the modern day Democratic Party with slavery or being anti-civil rights during the civil rights movement. There was a big switch between the Democrat and Republican parties, leading to Ronald Reagan’s quote “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me.” White, southern conservatives (a group that is largely Republican today) were Democrats during the time of the Civil Rights movement.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:09 pm to AU86
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London Spectator in reference to the Emancipation Proclamation
Is this a bit like quoting CNN's opinion of Trump's Rushmore Speech?
Wgaf what the London Spectator thought?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:14 pm to sabes que
There was no switch, that’s a fricking fairy tale lol. You’re kinda like a leftist fallacy jukebox.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:16 pm to Madking
Then why were the vast majority of Senators in the 1960s from the south Democrats and today the vast majority Republicans?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:18 pm to sabes que
You’re talking about geography I’m talking ideology. You’re moving the goalpost and being dishonest at the same time. Where are the Clintons from? Where does Biden’s usefulness come from? Seriously bro your talking points are razor thin.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:18 pm to sabes que
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There was a big switch between the Democrat and Republican parties,
Which elected Democrats became Republicans or vice versa?
Biggest fricking myth of them all
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:20 pm to More&Les
True or false, in 1960 almost every congressman from the south was a democrat? And true or false almost every one today is a Republican?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:21 pm to More&Les
It’s like he believes it’s republican vs republican in every ticket down here lol. I guess we just don’t count the politicians that lose in this alt world?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:21 pm to sabes que
And that proves what exactly?
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