re: Was slavery an important factor in the Civil War?

Just because they’ve lost elections doesn’t mean their ideology changed. Do you realize just how insane that line of thinking is? It has literally nothing to do with what you’re suggesting.

Correlation doesn’t equal causation and what you’re suggesting is likely even further apart than that analogy.

The shift you’re referencing there literally just happened and it has nothing to do with civil rights. The middle class used to be democrats, the southern “VOTERS” you’re talking about. The party lost that group recently to the right but the democrat party has never broken off course.

I guess George Wallace didn’t get the memo about “the switch”

“A quick google search provides dozens of congressman and governors. I am not going to list them all. But also Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump were formerly Democrats.“


Translation: “I’m not going to answer your question or defend my statements but look at this over here. It doesn’t have anything to do with the topic but I was told striking at Trump and Reagan, whenever possible, is always a good idea.”

That does not line up with his quote. “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me.”

Many southern conservatives in the 1960s were Democrats, today all southern conservatives are Republicans. Do you disagree with this?

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That does not line up with his quote. “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me.”

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That's all you got stretch, an innocuous quote by Reagan who was a California Politician, that's your Dixie Switch argument?

Come on man, at least put up a fight

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Monuments being built as you said in the 1920s would be during Jim Crow, also some of the monuments are in states that weren’t even part of the Confederacy.

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I never said one thing about the 1920's. Why would I? The majority of the monuments to the Confederate dead were put up in the 1890's to early 1900's. The surviving Confederate veterans were swiftly dying out and as I mentioned in the earlier post, there was a desire of the few remaining to give a remembrance to the many who had l their lives cut short and to give closure for the survivors and the dead soldier's families. You must understand the scale of devastation and loss which happened in many places across the South. For example, Lafayette County Miss. lost 25% of it's male population in the war, the vast majority of whose bodies never returned to the soil of North Mississippi. Some were placed in unmarked graves, some left to rot.( Other towns never received corpses of their fallen as they had been thrown in wells by Union forces to poison the water supply used for growing crops).

According to their own words, the monument in Oxford was erected in memory of their young men, some as young as 15, some conscripted to serve . These young men of Lafayette County whose families in the hills of North Mississippi didn't even own slaves.

Here are the words of Lafayette County, United Confederate Veteran Camp Commander, J. L. Shinault. He was the head of the group that got the Confederate monument erected on the Lafayette County Courthouse lawn.

"After efforts of several months we have succeeded in raising a monument to the memory of the young manhood of Lafayette County who you sent to the front from 1861 to 1865 to keep the enemy from our beautiful Southland. To this response our best manhood met the enemy four times their number upon many hard fought battlefields: and in this conflict of might and strength, your husband, sons, and brothers, who fell on the numerous battlefields of our Civil War were buried in ditches and gullies hurriedly dug by their comrades, and often times by the enemy - and unknown there now rest. It is to the memory of those to whom you said go and check the invading armies, and never returned, that the few survivors of that terrible struggle, in the evening tide of their lives, have erected on the courthouse Square in the city of Oxford, a shaft of beautiful design."

Oxford Eagle - May 9, 1907 - appearing in the book, Reflections of a Century .

You will find accounts like this all over the South, many in places were there were few, if any , blacks or slaves.
And yes, I'm sure that you will find them in other places there weren't within the official borders of the Confederacy. I'm assuming you realize that there were Confederate regiments from Missouri, Kentucky, even some from southern Illinois. It stands to reason there would be relics of remembrance in these and many other places which withstood loss. Men who died fighting for the South were not returned to their homelands as the Union soldiers, as they were brought back to their homes or buried in National cemeteries established by the federal government across the South. This is the OVERWHELMING reason you see all these monuments across the South and not the North. It's unfortunate this "theory" of black subjugation is being told as broad fact when it's patently absurd to anyone who has a cursory understanding of the American Civil War,